Re: New Trojan on the block [CIA Trojan]
Nick FitzGerald <[email protected]>
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Chris Norton wrote: > As far as CIA goes thats what the group who coded it is calling it [not > refering to the government agency] as taken from the readme file CIA 1.23 PB > 1 ( Public Beta 1 ) ... This being but one of dozens of obvious reasons why intelligent anti- malware folk do not name things as their makers wish... <<rest snipped>> I'm intrigued that, according to your first post, you "submitted it to the fine folks at ISC" and later seem surprised/upset/concerned that no AV detect it yet: As of this writing there are no known AV signatures available to detect this new trojan and there have been over 2,800 downloads... ...but the actual client program that infects the machines still goes by undetected. I have no reason to believe the "fine folks at ISC" will not have, eventually, forwarded samples to their antivirus contacts, but sending such suspect code to a network traffic reporting group, where malware research would seem to be at least a secondary priority, is surely introducing at least one, if not several, unnecessary delays to the process of getting AV detection for something new and perhaps already deployed to close to three thousand machines. For your future reference, here is my standard list of well-known major AV developer suspect file submission addresses. Note that nowadays it is probably advisable to use the submission method listed for NAI/McAfee for all these addresses (and mention in the accompanying message body that the .ZIP is encrypted and what the password is). Authentium (Command Antivirus) <[email protected]> Computer Associates (US) <[email protected]> Computer Associates (Vet/EZ) <[email protected]> DialogueScience (Dr. Web) <[email protected]> Eset (NOD32) <[email protected]> F-Secure Corp. <[email protected]> Frisk Software (F-PROT) <[email protected]> Grisoft (AVG) <[email protected]> H+BEDV (AntiVir, Vexira engine) <[email protected]> Kaspersky Labs <[email protected]> Network Associates (McAfee) <[email protected]> (use a ZIP file with the password 'infected' without the quotes) Norman (NVC) <[email protected]> Panda Software <[email protected]> Sophos Plc. <[email protected]> Symantec (Norton) <[email protected]> Trend Micro (PC-cillin) <[email protected]> (Trend may only accept files from users of its products) Most of these addresses are monitored either by 24x365 malware support and analysis teams, or have distributed processing around the globe providing (close to) 24x365 coverage. Several have automated code analysis systems that get the "first look" at submitted files, classifying them for further attention or simply sending back canned reports of the "we detect it in the DEF update that should ship at X or you can download a pre-QA copy at Y". Depending on the nature of the files you submit, you should get several quite prompt responses, at some of which you'll have to ignore (e.g. a downloader detection is pretty meaningless as the target of a downloader is usually considered to be a non-code variable and ignored by any semi-intelligent detection of that downloader, so the same downloader can be used multiple times configured to snag stuff from different URLs and will always be detected as the same downloader and variant). -- Nick FitzGerald Computer Virus Consulting Ltd. Ph/FAX: +64 3 3529854 _______________________________________________ Intrusions mailing list [email protected] http://www.dshield.org/mailman/listinfo/intrusions