Delcaration of Intent

Hezekiah <[email protected]> Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:30:19 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.invisiblenet.iip.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi, jrand0m, et al! :)

On Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:04, auto97841-revL73yDgGBWk0Htik3J/[email protected] wrote:
> 'lo y'all
>
> I understand what you are both saying, but I think there's still a
> misunderstanding. The point of including a declaration of intent in a
> project overview document is not to promote or explain what the personal
> motivations of any particular developers building the system are.  It is to
> give grounding for where the project is headed - to declare that the
> project will not stop short of providing anonymous, secure, and
> uncensorable communication to those who are under attack by the governments
> and corporations of the world.

	_That_ statement I can agree with. We won't stop short of building the 
network, and we'll build it right! However, the problem is that the 
Declaration of Intent contained a lot more than that. It contained a lot of 
absolute statements highlighting a rather radical viewpoint. That is where 
the problem occurred. So if we ever do write a document declaring this 
project's intent, then it's probably joining to be quite the chore coming up 
with something we can all agree with.

> That individuals are under attack from
> those organizations is an undisputed fact (though some may say thats ok,
> because the individuals under attack are "bad" people).  Even if one is in
> denial that such terrible things are going on in one's own community, don't
> we all acknowledge that they go on elsewhere - in Iran, China, the
> Philipines, or what have you?

	I completely agree that good people are under attack and can be persecuted 
simply for saying the wrong thing in certain countries. As a Christian, I am 
all to fully aware that in countries like China, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and 
others simply saying your are a Christian (much _less_ telling someone about 
Jesus) can get you killed or thrown in prison. That is part of the reason 
(and is one of the most important reasons) why I work on this project and 
IIP.

>
> Anyway, in order to not hold up the 0.1 release debating this, I've revised
> the doc pulling the first page out and updating the project overview
> accordingly.

	Thank you for understanding, and being willing to compromise so the project 
can go forward. I appreciate that. :)

> We will need to have a declaration of intent - or project
> goals if you prefer - before the I2P 1.0alpha release in september.
> Bundling a dozen "why *I* work on I2P" documents with releases isn't
> appropriate - no one cares why I develop for I2P as long as my efforst
> move it towards the project's goals.

	I agree that a dozen "why I work on I2P" documents don't need to be released 
in the source tarrball. ;-) That's why I suggested we put them on the web 
page when it's created. As for a declaration of intent, I really don't think 
we need one. People have just as many varying reasons for writting OSS 
software as we have for writting I2P. I think people already have enough 
reasons of their own. However, if we can come up with something we all agree 
with, I wouldn't be opposed to having one.
	But we can take care of that latter.

>
> So, here's the hopefully final doc.  Please review fully (I know, getting
> a 3 page reading assignment on the weekend sucks ;), as I'd like to have
> the release out tomorrow.

	It looks fine to me. :)

>
> Gracias
> -jrandom

	-- Hezekiah
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