Fwd: Re: Hello?

"0x90" <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:38:19 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.invisiblenet.iip.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
EFF is interested, this is what we are looking for.
The rhetorical question is... can we deliver this?

0x90



-----Original Message-----
From: Fred von Lohmann EFF <fred-juUERV/[email protected]>
To: "Lance James" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:14:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello?

Yes, let's try to touch base on this. Can you point me to the SDK so we 
can have a look at it?

Meanwhile, we're still working on spec-ing what we have in mind. Here's 
the roughest outline:

*distributed network of generic TCP proxying nodes
*nodes implemented to provide a generic service to any TCP-aware 
application (not optimized for email, http, ftp, IM, etc).
*nodes implemented to run on typical desktops (win, mac, nix) with 
minimum user involvement
*node default settings that respect user needs (bandwidth throttling, 
middleman mode, etc)
*nodes capable of running in "middleman mode" (relay only, no exit to 
TCP)
*distributed discovery mechanism (auto-updating node table? distributed 
bootstrapping?)
*encryption and camouflage for all traffic between relays (equal packet 
sizes? chaffing? etc)
*nodes capable of basic NAT evasion (assuming most users will not know 
how to config firewalls)

We're assuming that running a proxy like this will continue to be legal 
and that any potential attackers will not be able to monitor at the ISP 
level. (i.e., We're not trying to solve the China problem.)

We're talking to several people about several technologies that may 
provide some or all of the solution.

Fred

On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, at 12:53  PM, Lance James wrote:

> Have you arrived back from Defcon and such? If so, I would like to get
> in touch with you as we have already released a 0.1 SDK for Invisible
> Internet Protocol.
>
> Let me know your thoughts.
>
> Lance James
> Founder, InvisibleNet
>
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> I'd crawl over an acre of "Visual This++" and "Integrated Development
> That" to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb.  Thank you.
>
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