Re: ntp issues

Chris Wensink <cwensink-vkMKHgLPN8f9Ak/[email protected]> Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:27:05 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.ipcop.user
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Thanks for the advice, I'll set up a new installation of ipcop and work 
from that.  I'm 80% there already with another lower end PC.

Chris


On 7/21/2017 2:11 PM, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017, Chris Wensink wrote:
>
>> During the windows request this is what shows up in /var/log/messages:
>>
>> Jul 21 10:56:24 ipcop kernel: RED ACCEPT IN=wan-1 OUT= 
>> MAC=0c:c4:7a:01:dd:ae:50:87:89:e6:f6:80:08:00 SRC=46.243.26.34 
>> DST=X.X.X.X LEN=76 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=116 ID=23488 PROTO=UDP 
>> SPT=123 DPT=123 LEN=56
>
> Please keep correspondence on the list, so that others get a chance to
> see it.  By all means redact the public IP address, especially in view
> of the state of the firewall rules which are in a pretty terrible mess.
> On a quick glance I don't see an obvious block for NTP packets in what
> you sent.  Quite the reverse in fact, there seem to be a few redundant
> rules - some of them ACCEPT for all packets which is a bit terrifying.
> That may be from your frenetically adding rules in an attempt to get
> the time service working.  There is *nothing* in the CUSTOMFORWARD,
> CUSTOMINPUT and CUSTOMOUTPUT chains, the places where I'd expect to
> see the bulk of your customisations.  That's what they're for.
>
> But you've only sent the 'filter' table contents; when you post again
> (to the list, please), include the contents of all the tables and not
> just the filter table.  Look at 'man iptables' on one of your Linux
> boxes for more about the few tables that there are.  I suspect that it
> might be something in the 'nat' table which is causing your problems.
> My reasoning is that in the log extract that I've quoted above, there
> is an interface name (wan-1) given after 'IN=', but after 'OUT=', no
> interface name is given where I would expect the interface name of the
> GREEN interface.  This makes me think that IPCop doesn't know that it
> should be forwarding the packets to its Windows client, and is instead
> passing them to itself - and then dropping them.
>
> I'm tempted to suggest you reinstall IPCop from scratch, to start from
> some kind of a stable base for the firewall rules.  It would take me a
> good while to go through all your rules as they are and fix them up to
> be sure that they're safe against malicious parties; it would be a lot
> easier to start from scratch, even if I wrote the rules by hand.
>
> Incidentally when I look at iptables rules I have a sort of "command of
> thumb" that I almost always use to see them:
>
> iptables -L -v -n --line-numbers --exact | less -S
>
> This shows (for the default 'filter' table in this case) the number of
> packets and bytes each rule has seen, and it also numbers the lines in
> the chains so you can more easily refer to them.  For example you might
> want to replace them, or delete them, or '-I' another rule just before
> or just after them in the chain.  Quite often I do that temporarily,
> often rules which do nothing but count packets (or particular kinds of
> packets) as they traverese the chains.  NTP packets for example. :)  I
> recommend both techniques for troubleshooting iptables rulesets.
>
> 73,
> Ged.
>
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