Re: How to check UID of process on the other side of local TCP/UDP connection

Hi all

I'll clarify my question as i seem to have failed to make it clear.

My point is: Isn't it wrong to use the term unix sockets for local  
domain sockets? This isn't a tecnical question or a failure to  
understand what sockets are, what varieties exist and for what  
purposes each can be used (and what goodies each type provides). It's  
a failure to understand why the term unix sockets is used to  
designate local domain sockets.

The point in using the tcp/udp example is that contrary to popular  
designation, the sentence "doing tcp/udp is impossible with unix  
sockets because unix sockets are local domain sockets" is false. Unix  
sockets are the general class. While it's true that local domain  
sokets do not use tcp/udp, it's false (and this is a conceptual stand  
not an everyday unix jargon use) that unix sockets = local domain  
sockets.

Hierarchy

UNIX SOCKET {
	local domain
	ipv4/6
	etc
	etc
}

And this is the view that i would like you to tell me is right or  
wrong (i'm not standing by it, just asking what you consider it to be).

Thanks for reading




On 2006/11/29, at 20:57, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:17:09PM +0000, Filipe Varela wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyways, I would prefer to stick with TCP/UDP, because this is
>>>> what my
>>>> programs use already, and  I don't really want to change
>>>> everything to
>>>> Unix sockets (unless of course Unix sockets are the only good  
>>>> way to
>>>> resolve my problems).
>>
>> I don't want to go off-topic but i have an important question. Isn't
>> a socket a concept that translates an address and port? How would
>> someone go about doing tcp/udp without sockets when they both depend
>> on address/port mappings which are _literally_ sockets?
>
> I don't really understand your question nor where did the concept of
> doing tcp/udp without sockets originated.
>
> Maybe you're misreading the term Unix sockets? Sockets can belong to
> different protocol families: INET, INET6, UNIX/LOCAL, X25, etc..
>
> Unix sockets means using sockets for local interprocess communication.
> They don't use any network protocol.
>
> man 7 unix
>
> -- 
> lfr
> 0/0