Re: More along the lines of malware disinfection

Mike Moratz-Coppins <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.microsoft
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Jon R. Kibler wrote:
> IMHO, anytime, repeat ANYTIME, you have an infected box, it is < 0%
> trustworthy. You can remove the malware, but how do you know that
> you found everything? You don't. Especially if the malware is some
> sort of downloader or spyware.
> 
> Infected system? Back up the data, and ONLY the data, then (to quote
> Microsoft from RSA a couple of years ago) "Nuke it from space!".
> 
> Bottom line: It is impossible to give any reasonable assurance that
> a box that was infected has been cleaned. Best solution: Never store
> use data on a client system (so you have nothing to back up) and
> simply reimage any suspect system (ZenWorks, Ghost, etc.). I have
> some clients that reimage every desktop every weekend just for good
> measure.

Purely monetarily speaking, I love the idea of reinstalling every 
machine that gets a virus.  I might have earnt about 4 times more money 
than I have to date running my business, however I don't think customers 
would appreciate their computer install being nuked every time they have 
a malware issue.  I would say that so far I've done about 50 installs of 
Windows (computer building aside) whereas I have attended about 200 
appointments where I have removed some form of malware from a computer.

Sure, you can't be absolutely 100% sure that a machine is 100% clean, 
but quite frankly you can't be 100% sure that a cleanly-installed, 
patched up-to-date machine hasn't somehow been compromised by a 100% 
undetectable rootkit.  When I go to an appointment, I check the usual 
sources of 'programs being run on startup' registry entries that I'm 
aware of, I check the process list, and I investigate further if I 
observe any sign of a machine acting not 100% normal.

Computer fixing is rarely about 100% security (or anywhere near that), 
as 100% security means "not usable".


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Mike Moratz-Coppins
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