RE: Administrator in Domain Admins group
"James D. Stallard" <[email protected]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:39:41 -0000
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...And further to Laura's second point: The Local Administrator account used on Domain Controllers when logging = in using Directory Services Restore Mode (DSRM) has a different password = and a different set of rights to the Domain Administrator account. The = account is referred to here as the DSRM account. The password for the DSRM account is set during the DCPROMO process to = create the Domain Controller, and is set independently (and often = differently) on each individual Domain Controller. These passwords are = typically lost! Windows 2008R2 allows you to automate the changing of these passwords to = sync them with password of another account. My personal preference is to = hold the Domain Administrator account in trust (as per previous post) = and sync the DSRM account password on each Domain Controller with the = Domain Administrator account password. This can easily be automated with = Group Policy Preference to affect all current and future Domain = Controllers. The DSRM account rights cannot be broken down and delegated, but the = passwords can be held in trust to maintain control over the environment = by the business - NOT the IT Department. These passwords change rarely, = so must be strong enough to resist attack for extended periods. Consider = a 25 character passphrase using mixed case, numbers, letters and = punctuation as the minimum acceptable length to defend against the = current abilities of the password cracker. Cheers James James D. Stallard=20 Email: [email protected] Mobile: +44 (0) 7979 49 8880 Skype: JamesDStallard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] = On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: 09 February 2011 19:04 To: 'Michael Sturtz'; 'Shang Tsung'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Administrator in Domain Admins group Resending as there was a "failure to act" on the prior post and the = points are valid and important, IMO. :-) Laura -----Original Message----- From: Laura A. Robinson [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:04 PM To: 'Michael Sturtz'; 'Shang Tsung'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Administrator in Domain Admins group A couple of small corrections- 1. The built-in Administrator account cannot be deleted via normal mechanisms. Any mechanisms that might work to delete the account would = be unsupported. 2. The Administrator account for the domain and the local Administrator account for a DC booted into DSRM are not actually the same account.=20 Thanks, Laura -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] = On Behalf Of Michael Sturtz Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:16 PM To: Shang Tsung; [email protected] Subject: RE: Administrator in Domain Admins group The "Built in Administrator" account CAN be deleted however it is = strongly cautioned against doing this. One of the reasons is it is the account = that is used in safe mode should a disaster occur. If the built in Administrator account is locked out you can reboot the system in safe = mode (by hitting the F8 key at startup) and still logon to the account and = fix your system. If you delete or remove the built in administrator account = you will be unable to logon to the system. I would recommend renaming the = built in administrator account to a different name and then creating a new = account named Administrator that is not a member of the Administrators or Domain Administrators group and is disabled. This account is a decoy to = prevent nuisance attacks on your default administrator account. =20 Michael Sturtz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] = On Behalf Of Shang Tsung Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Administrator in Domain Admins group After an audit, I noticed that in the Domain Admins group of our domain, there is an account named Administrator. As my engineers told me, this account is created by default when you create a new domain and cannot be deleted or disabled. Is this true? I am not convinced yet. We do not like general purpose accounts like this because we lose accountability. I am pretty sure the password of that account is in the hands of people who are not supposed to have it. Each domain admin has = his own account who is in the Domain Admins group, so there is no need for = this Administrator account. Can we delete it? And if yes, what would be the consequences? Thanks, Shang Tsung