Re: Remote host dead?

Roman Medina-Heigl Hernandez <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.nessus.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
George A. Theall escribió:
> On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Roman Medina-Heigl Hernandez wrote:
> 
>> I'm trying to scan a host with the default policy. The host is alive  
>> and
>> responding to pings. I got no results when scanning with Nessus 3.2.0
>> (Windows). Looking at scan.log (in he "logs" dir), I can see a  
>> "remote host
>> is dead". But my question is why? If I run nmap against the host, I  
>> can see
>> unprivileged ports open (>1024) and of course it's responding to  
>> ping. I
>> also entered 1-65535 in "port scanner range".
> 
> Hi Roman.

Hello,

> Is the remote host a printer or some type of multifunction device? By  
> default, Nessus will try to identify hosts that are and mark them as  
> dead because many such devices don't react very well to scanning, even  
> a basic port scan. If so, you can edit the scan policy and check "Scan  
> Network Printers" (look on the "Advanced" tab, under "Do not scan  
> fragile devices").

No, it's not a multifunction device. Anyway, I had also thought of that 
possibility, and had done the following: I created a new policy and marked 
the two checks: scan network printer and novell netware hosts. I chose the 
new policy and rescanned, with no luck. Btw, the "do not scan fragile 
devices" will only appear if you create a new policy. Why doesn't it appear 
when editing default scan policy?

> Also, Nessus doesn't use ICMP pings by default but instead sends TCP  
> pings to a limited number of ports. You could either choose to do an  
> ICMP ping or make sure that one of the TCP ports you know to be open  
> is included in the list of TCP ports to be pinged (look under the  
> "Advanced" tab, under "Ping the remote host", "TCP ping destination  
> port(s)"). Or you can disable the Ping port scan altogether.

I disabled the ping scan and it didn't work either. But... I reenabled ping 
and check icmp ping in advanced options, and now it worked!! I suppose that 
Nessus marks a host as dead if all tests failed, and now that icmp ping is 
being checked, the host is no longer mark as dead... is it right?

Anyway, I'm still a bit confused because letting only marked the "Nessus 
TCP scanner" option (thus ping scanner disabled), and changing "port 
scanner range" from "default" to 1-65535, the host is still being marked as 
dead. What's the exact algorithm to mark a host as dead? And why are those 
ports not being used by TCP scanner?

>> Another question, how could I debug this? If I enable the option to  
>> "save a
>> packet capture of the scan", I couldn't find any new log on logs dir  
>> (where
>> should it be placed?)
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, Nessus Windows does not have support for saving packet  
> captures. I suppose the alternate approach would be to use Wireshark  
> alongside Nessus to see what's being sent and what's coming back. If  
> my comments above don't help, that is.

Ok, I'll try it. Thanks for your comments, they are helpful.

> Hope this helps,
> 
> George

-- 

Saludos,
-Roman

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