Re: Dll Security
VP <[email protected]> Tue, 10 May 2005 10:54:20 -0300
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Thanks for all replies. i'm gonna take a look in upx, i must fix this solution even if i just raise the bar. Best Reguards, VP >On 5/7/05, Keith Oxenrider <[email protected]> wrote: > The real question you should be asking is 'what is the point?' Any decen= t > cracker will be able to look at your decrypted binary in RAM, even make a > copy of it for later use. The very best you can do is raise the bar, but > to have any real chance of making a difference you need to make your > program detect that it is being run in a debugger (not a trivial task and > probably one that is fundamentally impossible, as the hardware itself can > be emulated) and continue to run, but with some subtle differences that > make it unusable (if it just crashes, it tells the cracker just what she > needs to know to bypass the check). Obscuring the code generally makes > maintenance costs skyrocket; you should do an economic analysis to prove > that the extra effort will be repaid. Keep in mind that legitimate users > often need to run their code in debuggers as well, so be sure to factor i= n > the ill will created when their attempts to debug their code that uses yo= ur > DLL cause all sorts of nasty problems for them (not to mention the suppor= t > calls!). >=20 >=20 > Keith Oxenrider > CISSP >=20 > At 04:17 PM 5/6/2005 -0300, VP wrote: > >Hi, i have a dll and i want to encrypt it to hide (obfuscate ??) an > >important algorithm used here. > > > >Well today i'm using a following approach: > > > >I'm encrypting the dll with a program, then when i want to loadlibrary()= it, > >i decrypt it to a plain-text file, then i loadlibrary the plain-text fil= e. > >So i have my encrypted dll and i have a plain-text version either. To > >mitigate this vulnerability, i'm using EFS to protect my plain-text dll. > > > >I'm wondering if using the PE format i can do some kind of "on-the-fly > >encrypt and decrypt". Is it possible ? There is any example ? Is it a go= od > >solution ? > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > >Victor >=20 >