Re[2]: A more fundamental issue..

graF <[email protected]> Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:11:35 +1000
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  -------------------[ hi!, Marius ]--

 Friday, November 7, 2003, you wrode:
 
Oh, I foresee, that it will be long discussion..

MHJ> So, if things don't change direction, you fear that the entire
MHJ> industry (or would you say the entire world?) will depend on a few
MHJ> 'gurus' to maintain the link between the low-level and the high-level
MHJ> in a secure fashion?
Well, young generation, that are below 18-20 years old, in common, are
not  aware  of  existence  low-level  programming,  they  are studying
programming  with  scripts and classes, therefore seQre programming is
now   a  domain  of  old,  experienced  gurus.  BUT...  when  security
programming  in vital and essential systems will afford a great money,
more and more hackers and brainy programmers will become such a gurus,
imho.

JvD>> This century will most likely see advanced,
JvD>> intimate human interface technologies introduced, and once they are available
JvD>> their benefits will most likely mandate their use.

MHJ> Let me add one line to this:

MHJ> For those that can afford it.

JvD>> And so we program in ever higher scripting abstractions, we interface ever
JvD>> closer to and into our skins and minds, we integrate systems ever closer to
JvD>> rely on and reuse of each other. All this is built on increasingly complex
JvD>> layers in the OS and in library toolkits. 
It is unavoidable with the current rights of case: JVM, .NET and more
and more... I-net-oriented, platform-independent... Hell, pure
globalization. [offtopic? :]


MHJ> Reuse will also reuse the bugs?

MHJ> A system that depends on a faulty system is a system that could fail
MHJ> any moment?
No, no... ISO, CMM, etc. I believe, that it will be work.

JvD>> These technologies will
JvD>> most likely aim to wire us directly into the computer.
Anxiously waiting :)

JvD>> As computing becomes ever more pervasive, even intimate, exploits can lead to
JvD>> increasing disaster.

MHJ> Have you seen the anime "Ghost in the shell" ?
Great, just great... but so unrealistic.

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Thanx for your attention.
 

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