Re: ClamAV effectiveness

Nick Johnson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.virus.clamav.devel
Message-ID <CALtmwYBXO7L4N0mQnE=oS1Dh46iSA+9LE2nDFU2S8hPW4-JOVQ@mail.gmail.com>
I should mention that I am not a clamav developer, just some guy on the list.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM, David F. Skoll <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, I already do that... but isn't that a bit of a copout?  If ClamAV
> is missing 80% of the viruses that we receive, it's not terribly useful,
> is it?
>

Here are some devil's advocate arguments against your conclusion:

(1) You're measuring effectiveness against your assumption that 99% of
.exe files in email have malware.  Although I agree with that
assumption, it should really be validated (perhaps with another AV
program) before we accept it as truth and declare that clamav has 80%
false negatives.

(2) You are confusing two different metrics.  One is the % of .exe
files which clamav declares clean.  The other is the % of malware
which clamav declares clean.  These are different because one malware
could appear in several .exe files.

When a new malware appears, there is a brief window during which
signature-based detection schemes (from ANY vendor) cannot find it.

It's entirely possible that there is ONE new malware that appears in
137K .exe files sampled in 'a few days'.  In that case, clamav would
identify all but one malware, yet the statistics look very bad because
that ONE undetectable malware appeared 137K times.  So, I would ask:
of these 137K .exe files, are they all identical?  Perhaps you could
report the number of distinct file sizes or number of distinct
md5sums.


-- 
Nick Johnson
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