RE: Microsoft AntiSpyware falling further behind

We take the same layered approach.

Trend IWSS at gateway with Trend OfficeScan inc Firewall / Anti-Spy on
desktops, complimented by either Spybot / MS AntiSpyware, and we do find
that one system will detect stuff the others don't.

Trend especially appears to detect lots more problematic cookies than
any of the others. The layered approach is the best, as you can not
depend upon one vendor getting updated dat files out quicker than the
others, but by having multiple layers you increase your chances of
getting a update for one of your range of products quicker. 

And Spybot and MS are both free, so it should be feasible for everyone
to have a layered approach.

Rgds, K.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Klein [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 25 October 2005 22:20
To: Quark IT - Hilton Travis; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Microsoft AntiSpyware falling further behind

There will never be a perfect solution - don't wait. 

For the moment think of Spyware as cold weather and you want to be
protected (warm); put on layers to protect yourself. 

Symantec has updated themselves to add Spam and Spyware to their
antivirus product. We are using Symantec, Websweeper, MS anti-spyware,
and Whole Security (behavior based AS).  

You might say this is overkill but who knows for sure - while they all
play nice together I feel like I am at home by the fireplace with a good
supply of logs.

 
Regards,
 
Bruce Klein |Director of IT
O:503-943-6750
C:971-645-7304
F:503-224-1581
www.iovation.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Quark IT - Hilton Travis [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Microsoft AntiSpyware falling further behind

Hi All,

It seems that not only does Microsoft AntiSpyware recommend that
Claria's spyware is ignored, but it also misses a significant amount of
cookies that are placed on a system - I have a VPC environment where I
browse the Internet so that anywhere I go won't affect my regular
Windows session/installation.  Regularly CounterSpy is detecting cookies
(such as Cok.ad.yieldmanager, CGI-Bin, Cok.AssassinTrojan2.0 and Zedo
(from yesterday's browsing)) that Microsoft AntiSpyware simply does not
know about.

Now, this is not only disappointing, but potentially dangerous.  Any
customer or end user running Microsoft AntiSpyware or CounterSpy is not
being protected from these cookies, and MSAS doesn't even detect them -
that's right, neither program's active monitoring is stopping the
installation of these cookies, but at least CounterSpy is detecting them
post-installation.

AntiSpyware is far, far from the accuracy of antivirus, especially
something like NOD32.  I wonder how long it will be before a decent
AntiSpyware application is released that, like NOD32 does with viruses,
actually stops spyware *before* it is installed?

--

Regards,

Hilton Travis                          Phone: +61 (0)7 3344 3889
(Brisbane, Australia)                  Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394
Manager, Quark IT                      http://www.quarkit.com.au
         Quark Group                   http://quarkgroup.com.au/

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