Re: interactive documentation for read builtin differes from manual, leaves out critical info

Chet Ramey <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.shells.bash.bugs
Organization ITS, Case Western Reserve University
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 7/27/26 11:51 AM, Britton Kerin wrote:

> Ok, but the help should still aim for a level of specificity that's
> consistent feature-to-feature.  The help output for the -t option to
> read goes into considerable detail about behavior including return
> code, behavior on 0, etc., but it doesn't mention the conditions under
> which the option is operative *at all*.  That's highly inconsistent
> specificity and should be fixed. 

I disagree. The current text describes the effect of various arguments to
`-t', since `timeout' is included in the synopsis.

`read' reads from standard input (leaving -u aside for a moment), and
the documentation doesn't go into all the variations in behavior that can
occur based on the type of file descriptor stdin is. Should it?

The `help' builtin exists to provide quick help for the most common
modes of operation. The man page/info file is where you go for all the
nitty gritty. I think the `read' split is ok.

(As an aside, what kind of timeout are you using here? And where is the
file? Even if `read' didn't ignore the timeout for regular files, you'd
have to have an extremely short timeout to see any effect with a local
regular file.)

Chet

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