Re: Net Profit (memo)

Srimal Athukorale <srimalc-/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.systems.as400.jbausers
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Dear Richard

U always gives a solution.




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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: System 21 Users <system21-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 10:05:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SYSTEM21] Net Profit (memo)

I guess everyone is nervous about the possibility of changes figures that 
have already been reported.  Also the job can take a long time.  It is 
often easier and quicker to find the error and fix it manually

If it is really necessary to rebuild the balances, what I have sometimes 
done, is to repost everything instead - mainly because I can control it.

Assuming you have no currency balances...  First, after ending the 
background job, you have to check that you have no FLP008 records with an 
updnog of 0 and no FLP007 with an UPDNOG of -1 (Note this sometimes 
displays as a positive 1 due to editing).  Next you chose your starting 
point and set your company profile back to that period (say 10812) and 
change all FLP007 records greater than your start period to an UPDNOG of 
-1 and FLP008 to an UPDNOG of  0.  Next remove all FLP004 records for 
periods greater than your start.  Now perform month end.  Change all 
FLP007 records for the new period to 0 and then start the background job. 
This will post that periods transactions.  Then end the background job and 
advance the period, repeating the process until you are up to date. 

You could of course do all the updates and then roll the periods.

The usual things about testing and backing up apply as always. 

I guess my biggest concern here is understanding what happened as I don't 
like mysteries.  There is always a reason as to why things happen.

Richard Caldicott
Director - Implementation
Tandy Brands Accessories
817-548-0090 extn 146



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To:
System 21 Users <system21-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
Date:
10/13/2009 09:25 AM
Subject:
Re: [SYSTEM21] Net Profit (memo)
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Nope we didn't roll updnog numbers or try to recover a g/l transaction.

Bob Keeley told me once not to run G/L rebuild for a prior year, hence my 
hesitation.  Do you have any idea why he would've said that?





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10/12/2009 05:20 PM
Please respond to System 21 Users

        To:     System 21 Users <system21-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
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        Subject:        Re: [SYSTEM21] Net Profit (memo)


Has you UPDNOG rolled recently?  One problem I have comes across is where 
the UPDNOG reaches 9999999 and when the next number is allocated to a 
transaction, it gets zero, but the balances are updated.  It looks as if 
the transaction didn't update and if 'recover' the transaction you 
actually update it a second time, causing an imbalance.

A rebuild should fix the data but it might be easier to fix the account if 


it is as the result of a single entry similar to that I described above. 
Why not run a query totalling up your FLP008 records for the periods you 
think may be out and put in a work file.  Do the same with FLP004 adding 
up NPCR04 & NPDR04 and then compare the 2 files.  It should give you more 
confidence in the outcome if you decide to rebuild.


Richard Caldicott
Director - Implementation
Tandy Brands Accessories
817-548-0090 extn 146



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To:
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Date:
10/12/2009 03:50 PM
Subject:
[SYSTEM21] Net Profit (memo)
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We have a problem where the Balance Sheet Report (43/GLE) is out of 
balance after month end.  The discrepancy is in the period balance 
(FLP004) for the Net Profit account (970000).  The sum of the transactions 



(FLP008) on the accounts that make up the Profit and Loss ledger do not 
match the period balances (FLP004) of the Net Profit account.  The problem 



is that the out of balance goes back to a prior year's period.   I can't 
find any evidence of a transaction(s) that updated the prior period.  Can 
we run a g/l rebuild for a prior year?

Retained Earnings amount has changed as well.

We're on version 3.5.1.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeri Kilroy
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