Re: Infor lied to me

I've discovered that the AUDITTB exists on my system as well.

Fortunately my sox process is looking for objects changed (clp/pgm, etc), and not savf.


We recently went thru a similar audit with QAD and over a 90 day period we exceeded our license twice by two, so they suggested we by a block of new license for $31K.  I thought that was a ridiculous request.  Due to reductions, I'm sure it's no longer a problem.

I've not seen the results of our Infor audit, but can't see how we'd exceed licensing when the system won't let you exceed your count.
QAD by comparison, at our particular version, has no controls.


I think it's a fishing expedition, but I understand that like us, they're in business to make a profit too.




James LeLeux
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-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected] [mailto:mapics-l-bounces-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]] On Behalf Of Burns, Bryan
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:05 AM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Infor lied to me

We just started our SmartAudit yesterday and I agree that they're really pushing the limits on verifying compliance.  I have no problem keeping the audit going as we haven't intentionally done anything to attempt to avoid a license.  However, the SmartAudit app is a little too intrusive for my tastes.  I'd much rather let Infor sign on our system and poke around to their heart's content to tell us whether we're in compliance versus running their audit software 24/7 for six weeks.

I guess what I'm saying is "Is it reasonable to run a very sophisticated software program written to check every nuance of a license agreement to check for compliance?"  I believe we are in compliance, and I believe our affiliate does, and I believe Infor does (otherwise they would have told us about it).  But they're taking it much farther with their audit.

Bryan Burns

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	mapics-l-bounces-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected] [mailto:mapics-l-bounces-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]]  On Behalf Of Greg Wenzloff
Sent:	Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:18 AM
To:	MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Cc:	Jas Paddam
Subject:	[MAPICS-L] Infor lied to me

I was assured that their Smartaudit does NOT write to or otherwise
update your production systems.
This is written on page 2 of their install instructions.    I was also
told that on the phone.

We started their audit yesterday and on this morning's SOX report we see
they put a file call AUDITTB into library QGPL.

Now I have to do all of the $#@%^&*ing  SOX paperwork to justify that
being there including getting 6 signatures!!
Also this paperwork is supposed to be done BEFORE things get loaded....
dates will be after the fact now.

Not happy,
Greg


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