Re: XA Today

 I have to add to Kevin's remark about being prevented from downloading a printer file or single program.  As part of our implementation 2 years ago, we customized the shop packet.  It was a fairly minor change for us to make and the users were very happy to have had input and see their suggestions implemented.  It was certainly not worth the price of a source code license, but since the code was available for download, we did it.  

 I hope Infor can consider providing some mechanism for small shops to perhaps 'purchase' code for a specific or limited number of programs.  

 
 Pete S.


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From: "Kevin Mann" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
Date:  Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:18:40 -0500

>As the initial "ranter", I am happy to see that Infor is active in these
>discussions also. To Kevin Fox and Ross, Yes I have seen the
>presentations on the future of XA,  and I am exited about what we will
>be able to do. I have seen many very promising things that are available
>or will be available soon.  I would agree that Infor is doing many good
>things that Mapics didn't or couldn't do. But I believe that this
>discussion has also shown an area where Infor may be lacking compared to
>the "good old days".  In order for me to learn about these new
>applications from Infor, I have had to seek out places to see these
>presentations which have been out of state. I am grateful that these
>existing affiliates or former affiliates  have allowed me to see these
>presentations. Under Mapics, we had 3 local affiliates in my area. They
>all had consultants that were well trained and very knowledgeable about
>the latest applications. They would offer presentations at their
>facilities as well as promote and run the local Mapics user group.  It
>was easy to find someone that had experience with these new products. If
>there was a policy change, such as with source code, these changes would
>be made known to us through one of these channels. These local
>affiliates could also recognize that we are not all the same. They
>realized that they were dealing with $10 million dollar single site
>companies with 20 users and $500 million dollar companies with multi
>sites and a 1000 users. I would like to think that an issue such as the
>one that started this topic would not have gone this far. Is it really
>Infor's intention to prevent me from downloading 2 or 3 print file
>source codes and 2 or 3 source codes for PTF's that I'm trying to apply
>over previously modified code? Or to pay an ALF fee on top of what was
>all ready paid for these 5 or 6 downloads a year? Were there some users
>abusing the download option and downloading entire apps?
>
>It seems that from the varied responses that have come across this
>topic, that not everyone is getting the same information.  In order for
>me to move my company forward, I have to convince my management that
>these new applications are worth the investment and that they will not
>be dinosaurs tomorrow. There are several packages or concepts that
>Mapics has marketed to be the wave of the future but have ended up
>fizzling out.  Unfortunately, once management has bought in to one of
>these that has gone nowhere, it makes it that much more difficult to
>convince them. This is especially true when all I can do is show them a
>Power Point presentation. There is no one to give them a first hand
>experience of how this is working and how it will work in our situation.
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>               Thanks,
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>                         Kevin
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