Re: fedora 42 doesn't have awk: how to deal with autoconf subst?

Simon Josefsson via Gnulib discussion list <[email protected]> Thu, 17 Apr 2025 19:01:15 +0200

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Bruno Haible via Bug reports for autoconf <[email protected]> writes:

> Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> It seems awk is going away as a standard tool, and it is possible to
>> either fight that or just accept it.
>
> I don't think that the set of "standard tools" is shrinking. Rather,
> it's expanding. On OpenBSD for example, perl is installed by default.
> Similarly, Python is considered a standard tool nowadays.

I think it depends on what kind of environment we are talking about.
"Debian" installed via debian-installer do not result in the same
environment as running the docker container images (which are typically
used for CI) or the cloud images (which are typically used in Kubernetes
environments).  I'm not sure there is a trend that container images for
OS's are growing, I think most distributions are actively trying to make
them as small as possible and are dropping packages.  This also seem to
change over time, what used to be included in a (for example) "Debian
11" container image could at some point be removed.

/Simon

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