Re: GCC reporting piped input as a security feature (was: GNU Coding Standards, automake, and the recent xz-utils backdoor)

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> When considering any such change, we still should consider the question:
> will this actually prevent cracks, or will it rather give crackers
> an additional way to check that their activities can't be detected.
>   

While it does not /prevent/ cracks, there is something we can ensure 
that we *keep* doing:  GCC, when reading from a pipe, records the input 
file as "<stdin>" in debug info *even* if a "#" directive to set the 
filename has been included.  This was noticed by Adrien Nader (who 
posted it to oss-security; 
<URL:https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/04/03/2> and 
<URL:https://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=171214932201156&w=2>; those are 
the same post at different public archives) and should provide a 
"smoking gun" test to detect this type of backdoor dropping technique in 
the future.  This GCC behavior should be documented as a security 
feature, because most program sources are not read from pipes.

The xz backdoor dropper took great pains to minimize its use of the 
filesystem; only the binary blob ever touches the disk, and that 
presumably because there is no other way to feed it into the linker.  If 
debug info is regularly checked for symbols obtained from "<stdin>" and 
the presence of such symbols reliably indicates funny business, then we 
force crackers to risk leaving more direct traces in the filesystem, 
instead of being able to patch the code "in memory" and feed an 
ephemeral stream to the compiler.  The "Jia Tan" crackers seem to have 
put a lot of work into minimizing the "footprint" of their dropper, so 
we can assume that this must have been important to them.

To avoid false positives if this test is used, we might want to add a 
rule to the GNU Coding Standards (probably in the "Makefile Conventions" 
section) that code generated with other utilities MUST always be 
materialized in the filesystem and MUST NOT be piped into the compiler.


-- Jacob