Re: Bug Resilience Program of German Sovereign Tech Fund

Christoph GrĂ¼ninger <[email protected]> Sat, 15 Jun 2024 19:52:16 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.sysutils.automake.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello Karl,
don't get me wrong. I think GNU Autotools will not vanish and projects 
will rely on it for at least another decade. I am thankful for your work 
and we need to keep this project alive. That is the reason I am 
proposing to apply for contributions.
Still, I think many projects do not need the level of compatibility 
Autotools provide and profit more from C++ module and recent language 
feature support.

>      It could also help out on the way to Automake 2.0.
> 
> As long as I'm the primary person driving Automake, there will not be an
> Automake 2.0. I have no plans to ever work on that, and see no need for
> it, either.

Good to know. All Automake release announcements since 2.13 warn about 
future Automake 2.0 incompatibilities.
>      Do you feel like not trying it in the first place?
> 
> Let me ask this: if we end up being accepted, what are we committing
> ourselves to do?  Anything? (wrt to the neighborhoodies or the
> government.) Submit a report?

At the beginning there is a meeting between you (maybe more people, I 
can take part, too) and the developers. Citing the FAQ:
 > Upon invitation to BRP, the maintainers will be introduced to
 > Neighbourhoodie Software, which is determines the scope of the
 > activities most needed by the project. The BRP reviews the scope
 > of work and approves it, and Neighbourhoodie Software then
 > provides the contributions.

> Assuming we aren't forced to do things like accept patches we don't
> want, or explain endlessly how m4 works, overall, I guess my feeling is
> that there's probably no harm in trying. Despite our skepticism, maybe
> we will be pleasantly surprised and get some useful results. That would
> be nice.

I totally agree!

> I have a bunch of wording issues with your proposed text, but that is minor.

Please share text improvements with me, once we decide to apply.

Bye
Christoph