RE: regexless parsing, again?
"Marcus J. Ranum" <[email protected]> Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:52:50 -0400
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Eric Fitzgerald wrote: >The terms "obvious" and "prior art" come to mind. Everyone knows that the patent system is horribly awry with regards software. Like many of the old-timers who started off with the security industry, I get 2 or 3 patent-related enquiries (for or against) each year - it's ridiculous because most of the patents are bogus. I've been involved in 5 cases in the last 7 years regarding patents granted for intrusion detection systems. PTO keeps issuing patents for rocket science ideas like using statistics on packets (!wow!) and in-line blocking (*gasp*!) of hostile traffic. The field of logging is just as bad, except that the prior art here stretches back to the 1970's where as IDS didn't have a history prior to the mid 1980's. None of that changes anything. Several of the lawyers I've worked with on patent issues have been quite cheerful about the broken-ness of the patent system. After all, they litigate patents for a living, and if the system weren't broken, they'd have to go chase ambulances or sniff asbestos or something else. The PTO is judged by how many patent applications it examines and how many patents it grants, so it's actually got an incentive to keep issuing bad patents. Especially since most PTO lawyers know they can get a job at a patent specialist law firm after a few years doing the government grind. The entire system is in a huge feedback loop that guarantees the problem will get worse and worse. Meanwhile, for a normal person - the proverbial "little guy" it doesn't matter if the patents are bogus or not, because the cost of defending yourself if you're sued by a company with one of these bogus patents is now prohibitively high. And, like with the asbestos litigation, there are now jurisdictions that specialize in being a friendly place for patent litigation. If you want to defend yourself against a patent lawsuit from a big company with a bogus patent, you'll spend at least $500,000 or more in the first year. And there are whole strategies - the holders of these bogus patents try to get a couple of start-ups to settle (establishing some kind of precedent) before they approach Cisco or IBM. Try to squeeze enough money from the little guys to be able to afford to tackle the big boys. And meanwhile you've got experts like me pointing out shelf-space of prior art - but that has absolutely no bearing on anything. It's more a question of who has the financial fuel and the better legal strategy. But the patent system is not completely wasted. Last winter I ran out of fuel for my outdoor wood-burning furnace, and burned 6 boxes of patent documents in it. Kept my house toasty for 3 whole days, it did. I shudder to think how much that fuel cost somebody, though... mjr.