Re: Shutting down RTEMS

I have people do that occasionally

Running TEMS without SITMON
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21451311 

when there is a toxic situation which is causing TEMS crash immediately.

After the situation is identified, you can run kdstsns and set Run at 
Start to *NO.

I have also recommended it to people where the stop/start was so slow that 
the ITM maintenance failed. You see that during application support where 
the TEMS needs start and then stop. There are some hard coded stop times 
and that can break the process.

It isn't much useful otherwise since without SITMON not much is 
happening...


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Date:   04/10/2013 09:45 AM
Subject:        Re: [TME10] Shutting down RTEMS
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One interesting thing you can do--purely for PD purposes--is add the 
following to the end of KBBENV: CMS_SKIP_SITMON=Y.  This stops SITMON from 
being started at TEMS initialization.  Then see if the TEMS shutdown 
completes in timely fashion.  Also, remove "KSMOMS.KSMOMS" from the 
KDS_RUN var within KBBENV.  Or, don't do the above and just configure 
KBB_RAS1 for UNIT's 'ko4async' and 'ko4sitma' (ALL) and  see what the 
trace produces error-wise and perhaps it's a well known hit. 


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM, John Alvord <jalvord-r/[email protected]> wrote:
SITMON is busy means the TEMS is in a really bad state. ITM uses a sort of 
cooperative multi-tasking with pthreads and if any logic doesn't give up 
control you are stuck. Definitely PMR time unless you can bear to consider 
upgrading to a later level first....

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From:        <Robin.Smith-U3F5sf8KFGKCmk9zJvdQaQC/[email protected]> 
To:        <[email protected]>, 
Date:        04/10/2013 08:49 AM 
Subject:        RE: [TME10] Shutting down RTEMS 
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Thanks Toben, that's the approach I usually take, check the logfiles, see 
if anything been written and if not kill, then a kill -9... 
  
The standard kill seemed to trigger something so they must have put a trap 
in there somewhere. Might be worth u changing to 
  
itmstops || itmstops || kill $pid || sleep 120 || kill -9 $pid 
Think this rtems was already dead before I tried to shut it down, agents 
were all showing offline 
  
Found this in the ms log 
Tue Apr  9 09:01:21 2013 KDS9150I   The TEMS Sitmon thread is BUSY. 
Process TaskManager::process#1 has been in the BUSY state for longer than 
900 seconds. 
Then no more entries, until I shut it down - ring any bells with 
anybody??? 
  
  
  
  

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Personally, Robin, I like the "try twice and dice" method.  If it still 
doesn't shut down on the second attempt, soft kill, then hard kill as last 
resort.  

# alias itmstops='itmcmd server stop <tems_name>'
# pid=$(ps -e | grep kdsmain | awk '{print $1}') 
# itmstops || itmstops || kill $pid || kill -9 $pid

There are a couple of minor, rare concerns with killing kdsmain, but stars 
have to align just right and edits/updates to *.DB/*.IDX files have to be 
occurring simultaneously and usually you'll be aware of those.

Toben 


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:54 AM, <Robin.Smith-U3F5sf8KFGKCmk9zJvdQaQC/[email protected]> wrote: 
itmcmd server stop

No -f option?  Is it better to keep trying to shutdown or kill the
kdsmain  process if it takes longer than 10 minutes on a RTEMS??
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