RE: RTEMS Freezing

<Robin.Smith-U3F5sf8KFGKCmk9zJvdQaQC/[email protected]>
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Hi John
    I am not looking to push the limits, merely seeing strange behaviour
in the event of a RTEMS failure, and I need to ensure standby RTEMS can
cope with the load until normal service is resumed

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Subject: RE: [TME10] RTEMS Freezing


IBM arrives at that limit by doing serious large scale testing and
validating that the number of agents can be supported stably. When you
surpass those limits you can kind of on your own. I have personally
worked with customers that experienced instability at higher levels. You
can lose a lot of time and money experiencing that instability. So.. you
can make your own choices about that. 

The ulimit -n  [number of file descriptors] is very important. Each TCP
connection requires one such element. We currently recommend that TEMS
and WPAs be set up with ulinit -n 8192. The exact technique depends on
platform.

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From:        <Robin.Smith-U3F5sf8KFGKCmk9zJvdQaQC/[email protected]> 
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Date:        07/05/2013 02:50 AM 
Subject:        RE: [TME10] RTEMS Freezing 
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Hi John 
    I'm not sure how IBM arrived at those limits, especially with
Enterprise systems, but I think it's a constraint that can be overridden
by the OS as opposed to one within the application 
  
Think its hitting a limit in Aix, have seen TEC etc start misbehaving
when you have over 2000 concurrent connection 
  
ulimit -a                                    
time(seconds)        unlimited
file(blocks)         unlimited
data(kbytes)         131072
stack(kbytes)        32768
memory(kbytes)       32768
coredump(blocks)     2097151
nofiles(descriptors) 2000 
  
/usr/local/BindView/bvcontrol/AIX/bin/lsof | grep kdsmain | wc -l
   1783 
very close to 2000, think it opens a dev file for every socket 
  



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Subject: RE: [TME10] RTEMS Freezing

It the Installation and Setup manual - we talk about a TEMS being able
to support up to 1500 agents,  I know cases where the actual limit...
based on workload and communications is more like 800-900. A Hub TEMS
can support 10,000 agents. I know many sites that surpass those limits
but they sometimes experience stability issues - crashes/waits etc. 

I suggest you create some new remote TEMSes, reduce the number of agents
to the documented limits - or below - and then re-evaluate.

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From:        <Robin.Smith-U3F5sf8KFGKCmk9zJvdQaQC/[email protected]> 
To:        <[email protected]>, 
Date:        07/04/2013 08:59 AM 
Subject:        RE: [TME10] RTEMS Freezing 
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Hi All 
   RTEMS seems to freeze when the server has over 2000 concurrent
connection, any parameters I can tune under Aix or look at? 


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