Re: [ITM] Out of sync HUB TEMS?

Jay Slay <[email protected]> Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:09:52 -0400
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The cleanms needs to happen after failover while your standby hub is acting p=
rimary. =20


-jks

> On Oct 31, 2013, at 14:01, "Liu, Jun Feng" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> We have the same problem, even I clear offline, they will be back when the=
 failover happen again.
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> Thanks
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> Jun Feng Liu
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]=
m] On Behalf Of John Alvord
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:12 PM
> To: Discussion list for Tivoli product and Tivoli Ready products.
> Subject: Re: [TME10] [ITM] Out of sync HUB TEMS?
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> The internal equivalent of the INODESTS [node status table - TNODESAV] is n=
ot synchronized between the primary hub TEMS and the backup hub TEMS. You pr=
obably need to do a=20
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> ./tacmd  cleanms -a  =20
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> to remove all the offline nodes.
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> Regards,=20
> ______________________________________________
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> John Alvord
> Advisory Engineer and ITM Historian
> IBM Tivoli Monitoring 6 Platform
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> From:        "Battista, Joe" <[email protected]>=20
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> Date:        10/31/2013 07:35 AM=20
> Subject:        [TME10] [ITM] Out of sync HUB TEMS?=20
> Sent by:        [email protected]
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> We recently upgraded to ITM 6.2.3 FP03. Our environment consists of a pair=
 of HUB TEMS, (primary and hot-standby) and four Remote TEMS for our agents.=
 We shut down our primary HUB which forced the failover to the hot-standby. =
 Within a period of time we started receiving agent offline alerts which we s=
ort of expected since our Remote TEMS were failing over to the hot-standby H=
UB.  It=E2=80=99s been a while since we left our hot-standby HUB run as the p=
rimary.=20
>  =20
> After closer review, we noticed some of the offline agent alerts were from=
 servers that had been removed from our environment some time ago.=20
> I see references to the servers that no longer exist in our environment in=
 the QA1*.DB files on the hot-standby HUB but not on the primary HUB, specif=
ically tables QA1CSTSC.DB, QA1CSTSH.DB and QA1DNSAV.DB.=20
>  =20
> I assume this means in some way our HUB TEMS are out-of-sync? Is there an e=
asy way to get our hot-standby cleaned up and in-sync with the primary HUB?=20=

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> Thanks,=20
> Joe  =20
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oli product and Tivoli Ready products.<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TME10] [ITM] O=
ut of sync HUB TEMS?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The internal equivalent of the IN=
ODESTS [node status table - TNODESAV] is not synchronized between the primar=
y hub TEMS and the backup hub TEMS. You probably need to do a </span><br><br=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">./tacmd &nbsp;cleanms -a &nbsp;</span> <br><br><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">to remov=
e all the offline nodes.<br></span><br>Regards, <br>________________________=
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quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
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mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">"<a href=3D"mailto:tme10@list=
s.ca.ibm.com">[email protected]</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tme10@lists.=
ca.ibm.com">[email protected]</a>&gt;, </span><br><span style=3D"font-s=
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>Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font=
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 <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">[TME10] [ITM] Out of sync HUB TEMS?</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:=
7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#5F5F5F">Se=
nt by: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href=3D"mailto:tme10-bo=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a></span> <o:p></o:p=
></p><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><=
hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" noshade=3D"" style=3D"color:#A0A0A0" align=3D"c=
enter"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><br><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">We=
 recently upgraded to ITM 6.2.3 FP03. Our environment consists of a pair of H=
UB TEMS, (primary and hot-standby) and four Remote TEMS for our agents. We s=
hut down our primary HUB which forced the failover to the hot-standby. &nbsp=
;Within a period of time we started receiving agent offline alerts which we s=
ort of expected since our Remote TEMS were failing over to the hot-standby H=
UB. &nbsp;It=E2=80=99s been a while since we left our hot-standby HUB run as=
 the primary. </span><br><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span> <br><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#004080">After closer review, we noticed some of the offline agent=
 alerts were from servers that had been removed from our environment some ti=
me ago. </span><br><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">I see references to the servers=
 that no longer exist in our environment in the QA1*.DB files on the hot-sta=
ndby HUB but not on the primary HUB, specifically tables QA1CSTSC.DB, QA1CST=
SH.DB and QA1DNSAV.DB. </span><br><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span> <b=
r><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;color:#004080">I assume this means in some way our HUB TEMS are=
 out-of-sync? Is there an easy way to get our hot-standby cleaned up and in-=
sync with the primary HUB?</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span=
> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:1=
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Thanks, </span><br><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Joe &nbsp;</span> <br><span sty=
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