Re: Mailing List Future

Jaco Kroon <[email protected]> Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:04:33 +0200
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Hi,

Just looking into this in more detail:

Return-path:<[email protected]>

So yea, that's VERP based.

From: "Joshua Colp via groups.io"<[email protected]>

And that's a very basic form of SRS ...

And these headers are present too:

List-Subscribe:<mailto:[email protected]>
List-Help:<mailto:[email protected]>
Sender:[email protected]
List-Id: <asterisk-dev.groups.io>


So yea ... for filtering properly you need to handle groups.io specially.  It's a pain but perfectly do-able.

Kind regards,
Jaco

On 2024/01/04 14:34, Joshua C. Colp wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 8:28 AM Paul Kudla <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>     ok
>
>     i will post examples if/when this happens then for better
>     clarificastion
>     unless groups.io <http://groups.io> is uniqe to asterisk ?
>
>     being an isp mailing lists / open systems are the first to get
>     hacked !
>
>
> The groups.io <http://groups.io> platform is not unique to Asterisk, 
> there are numerous groups hosted on it. Directly adding members to 
> groups requires a paying plan, otherwise adding an email address 
> requires someone signing up themselves.
>
> -- 
> Joshua C. Colp
> Director of Engineering | Asterisk Project Lead
> Sangoma Technologies
> Check us out at www.sangoma.com <http://www.sangoma.com> and 
> www.asterisk.org <http://www.asterisk.org>
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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>Just looking into this in more detail:<br>
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    <pre>Return-path: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a>

So yea, that's VERP based.

From: "Joshua Colp via groups.io" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a>

And that's a very basic form of SRS ...

And these headers are present too:

List-Subscribe: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt;</a>
List-Help: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt;</a>
Sender: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
List-Id: &lt;asterisk-dev.groups.io&gt;


So yea ... for filtering properly you need to handle groups.io specially.  It's a pain but perfectly do-able.

Kind regards,
Jaco

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    On 2024/01/04 14:34, Joshua C. Colp wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 8:28 AM Paul Kudla &lt;<a
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            ok<br>
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            i will post examples if/when this happens then for better
            clarificastion <br>
            unless <a href="http://groups.io" rel="noreferrer"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">groups.io</a> is
            uniqe to asterisk ?<br>
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            being an isp mailing lists / open systems are the first to
            get hacked !<br>
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          <div>The <a href="http://groups.io" moz-do-not-send="true">groups.io</a>
            platform is not unique to Asterisk, there are numerous
            groups hosted on it. Directly adding members to groups
            requires a paying plan, otherwise adding an email address
            requires someone signing up themselves.</div>
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                          <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font
                              color="#073763">Director of Engineering |
                              Asterisk Project Lead</font></div>
                          <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font
                              color="#073763">Sangoma Technologies</font></div>
                          <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font
                              color="#073763">Check us out at <a
                                href="http://www.sangoma.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.sangoma.com</a>
                              and <a href="http://www.asterisk.org"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.asterisk.org</a></font><br>
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