Re: Mailing List Future

"Joshua C. Colp" <[email protected]> Fri, 5 Jan 2024 06:38:35 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.devel
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On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 6:33=E2=80=AFAM Joshua C. Colp <[email protected]> w=
rote:

> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 6:21=E2=80=AFAM Paul Kudla <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think we are getting off track here,
>>
>> email can come from anywhere
>>
>> like mine when i send an email it comes from "Paul Kudla <[email protected]>"
>> which is perfectly normal, if i sent an email from :
>>
>> "Paul Kudla <[email protected]>"
>>
>> that would be wrong because the email address does not exist and would
>> eventually bounce on most system or more importantly get blocked in
>> someone's spam filter because it is unknown to the end user.
>>
>> Again trying to help
>>
>>
>> the issue creeps in when a mail system tries to send with a different
>> send email address then what is in the headers.
>>
>> My or any other system does not block ordinary email, and the tmda (in
>> my case) will trap it for approval. I can catch and kinda approve these
>> but its one at a time when headers get messed with.
>>
>> The issues being found here is email from for example
>>
>> Asterisk Developers Mailing List <[email protected]>
>>
>> is now show as
>>
>> Asterisk Developers Mailing List <[email protected]>
>>
>> which in its self kinda correct but but group.io should really be a
>> proper domain related to asterisk like the
>>
>> "<[email protected]"
>>
>> was
>>
>> fyi
>>
>>
>> Hope this clarifies, asterisk mailing list really needs to come from an
>> asterisk domain (or sub domain) NOT groups.io
>>
>> can you get n asterisk.groups.io
>> (like the digium one? - lists.digium.com)
>>
>> this would resolve to identy issues.
>>
>
> Possibly? I created a subgroup which moved things to an
> asterisk-dev.groups.io subdomain, whether that is sufficient for your
> purposes I do not know.
>

I do not believe it is sufficient based on your comments.

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Joshua C. Colp
Director of Engineering | Asterisk Project Lead
Sangoma Technologies
Check us out at www.sangoma.com and www.asterisk.org

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 6:33=E2=80=AFAM Jo=
shua C. Colp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jan 5, 202=
4 at 6:21=E2=80=AFAM Paul Kudla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
I think we are getting off track here,<br>
<br>
email can come from anywhere<br>
<br>
like mine when i send an email it comes from &quot;Paul Kudla &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;&quot; <br>
which is perfectly normal, if i sent an email from :<br>
<br>
&quot;Paul Kudla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">pau=
[email protected]</a>&gt;&quot;<br>
<br>
that would be wrong because the email address does not exist and would <br>
eventually bounce on most system or more importantly get blocked in <br>
someone&#39;s spam filter because it is unknown to the end user.<br>
<br>
Again trying to help<br>
<br>
<br>
the issue creeps in when a mail system tries to send with a different <br>
send email address then what is in the headers.<br>
<br>
My or any other system does not block ordinary email, and the tmda (in <br>
my case) will trap it for approval. I can catch and kinda approve these <br=
>
but its one at a time when headers get messed with.<br>
<br>
The issues being found here is email from for example<br>
<br>
Asterisk Developers Mailing List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
igium.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
is now show as<br>
<br>
Asterisk Developers Mailing List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
o" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
which in its self kinda correct but but <a href=3D"http://group.io" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">group.io</a> should really be a <br>
proper domain related to asterisk like the<br>
<br>
&quot;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email protected]</a>&quot;<br>
<br>
was<br>
<br>
fyi<br>
<br>
<br>
Hope this clarifies, asterisk mailing list really needs to come from an <br=
>
asterisk domain (or sub domain) NOT <a href=3D"http://groups.io" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">groups.io</a><br>
<br>
can you get n <a href=3D"http://asterisk.groups.io" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">asterisk.groups.io</a><br>
(like the digium one? - <a href=3D"http://lists.digium.com" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">lists.digium.com</a>)<br>
<br>
this would resolve to identy issues.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Po=
ssibly? I created a subgroup which moved things to an <a href=3D"http://ast=
erisk-dev.groups.io" target=3D"_blank">asterisk-dev.groups.io</a> subdomain=
, whether that is sufficient for your purposes I do not know.</div></div></=
div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I do not believe it is sufficient base=
d on your comments.</div></div><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_signatur=
e_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><=
font color=3D"#073763">Joshua C. Colp</font></div><div style=3D"font-family=
:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color=3D"#073763">Director of Engineering | Aster=
isk Project Lead</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><=
font color=3D"#073763">Sangoma Technologies</font></div><div style=3D"font-=
family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color=3D"#073763">Check us out at <a href=
=3D"http://www.sangoma.com" target=3D"_blank">www.sangoma.com</a> and <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.asterisk.org" target=3D"_blank">www.asterisk.org</a></font=
><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>

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