Re: Re: Another "several small issues" post

Eli Crumrine <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:09:11 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.bibtex.jurabib.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
"JC" <[email protected]> | Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:34:14 +0000

> > Replying to my own post, I got basically all of these issues worked
> > out by simply using the chicago format instead of oxford.  The
> > problems with two periods after a middle initial remain, though, as
> > well as a couple other small ones I can't be bothered to change.
> 
> 
> Hi Eli,
> I have the same trouble with multiple periods after a middle initial.
>  There's a process in the jurabib files that removes a period after
> the title of a book if it already ends in punctuation; while I was
> unsuccessful in my amateur efforts to use that same function for
> middle initials, others might have more luck.  I'm currently planning
> on going through my Bibtex file and deleting those periods (as I see
> them only in my bibliography where I wouldn't need them).

Although I know little tex/latex as well, I will take a look at this.
I noticed it did that for titles and was surprised similar punctuation
detection was not done for authors.

> 
> What are some of the other small issues you still have?  Others on
> this list might be able to help---or even benefit alongside you.  Best
> wishes,
> James
> 

Let's see; I will go through and do an exhaustive list (this is all
using chicago style):
-On quoted titles (i.e., journal articles) the comma (in footnote) or
period (in the bib) are outside the quotation marks.  I know this is
the European standard and it makes more syntactical sense, but
Americans usually put punctuation inside quotation marks.
-For @incollection items, the capitalization of "in" and "Ed." (for the
editors, listed after the titles), is messed up.  In footnotes, where a
comma follows the title, "Ed." is capitalized, something which should
only be done after a period (i.e. in the bibliography, where it is
correct).
Additionally, in the bibliography, I will get something like:

Cunningham, Michael.  "Unionist and Nationalist Thinking in the 1990s".
in /i/The Northern Ireland Question: Nationalism, Unionism and
Partition/i/.

The "in" is lowercase; it should be capitalized after a period.  This
ends up correct in footnotes, where commas are used instead.
-For works which are translated, I have an author, editor, and
editortype={trans.} field, as per the jurbib docs, in the .bib
database.  When this is cited, the entry I get is:

[Author(s)]; [Editor(s)] (trans.)

I would prefer:

Author[.|,] Title[.|,] [T|t]rans. Editor

and a similar format for regular editors, with "[E|e]d." instead of
trans.

That's all I can think of now, let me know if I should just send images
instead of long-winded explanations :P.

-- 
Eli C.
2007:01:12


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