Re: "cambridge" style

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Citeren jdbillett <[email protected]>:

> I just recently discovered jurabib and only found this users' group
> today.  I am most 
> grateful for both.  I was especially pleased to see that Guido
> Milanese is a regular 
> contributor, since another Gregorian chant researcher obviously finds
> the package 
> useful (I am a great admirer of a recent piece of his on Carolingian
> grammatical 
> reform and its possible influence on chant notation).
> 
> To use jurabib to write my PhD dissertation, I am going to have to
> learn to make 
> some alterations to the oxford option, since I study at "the other
> place" (Cambridge), 
> and couldn't be caught using the citation style of the Auld Enemy!
Well, there is actually no enemy there. The way it was implemented relied on a 
Dutch theologian who now lives in Germany, so Oxford wasn´t involved at all.
> 
> There are seven things listed below that I need to learn how to do in
> order to make 
> this work.  I would appreciate any help that is offered.  Attempts to
> work my way 
> through the .sty and .bst files have thus far proven daunting!
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Jesse Billett
> King's College
> Cambridge, UK  CB2 1ST
> 
> 
> 1.  Suppress the publisher in citations and bibliography.
> 
>      e.g. [...] (London, 2004)
When I needed this, I simply left the publisher field blank. That should produce 
the behaviour you want.
> 
> 2.  In full citations and bibliography, Author/Editor first names
> always abbreviated to 
> initials.
> 
>      e.g. .bib file has AUTHOR = "Jesse Dean Billett"
> 
>      bibliography:
> 
>      Billett, J. D., `The Divine Office in Anglo-Saxon England' [...]
> 
>      first full citation:
> 
>      J. D. Billett, `The Divine Office in Anglo-Saxon England' [...]
> 
>      next cite (titleformat=all):
> 
>      Billett, `The Divine Office [...]
I don´t know whether this is possible with Oxford. It was with normal jurabib.
bst. Apart from this, it is normally considered a bad habit, and, as far as I 
know, far from a default Cambridge practise. So just start a good habit and 
write first names according to the way they are mentioned on the title page of 
the book you refer to. :-)
> 
> 3.  Create some new entry types!
> 
> a) @manuscript % For medieval manuscripts
> 
> ===> Needs fields for Address, Library, Shelfmark, and Comment. 
> Citations would 
> have to refer to folios or pages, depending on how the manuscript was
> marked.
> 
>      e.g. London, British Library, MS Additional 56488 (s. xiii
> breviary, Muchelney, 
> Somerset)
I guess there is some support for this now in 0.6?
> 
> b) @primarysource  % For editions of medieval texts
> 
> ===> Needs fields for Author (if known), Title, Editor, EditionTitle,
> and other things 
> for @book or @inbook
> 
>      e.g. Bede, {\em Epistola ad Ecgberhtum}, ed. C. Plummer, {\em
> Venerabilis Bedae 
> Opera}, 2 vols. (Oxford, 1896), I, pp. 405--23
This is possible, just have a book type with both author and editor.
> 
> 4. Other things to tinker with, like "(ed.)" and "(eds)", instead of
> "editor/s" (I see this is 
> already being addressed) and the order in which this is found.  In
> the "cambridge" 
> style, for @inbook or @incollection, the editor of the volume appears
> after the 
> booktitle:
> 
>      e.g. Barnard, L. W., `Bede and Eusebius as Church historians',
> in {\em Famulus 
> Christi}, ed. G. Bonner (London, 1976), pp. 106--24
> 
> but:
> 
>      Parsons, D. (ed.), {\em Tenth-Century Studies: Essays in Commemoration
> of the 
> Millennium of the Council of Winchester and \textnormal{Regularis Concordia}}
> 
> (London and Chichester, 1975)
As far as I know, this also depends on common practice. Some have editors before 
titles, others after the title. Do you know of a standard style handbook for 
either Oxford or Cambridge? I´v looked for it, but didn´t find it.
> 
> 5. I'm also wondering if a "volume in series" field might be created,
> so that we might 
> be able to show what number in a series is meant:
> 
>      e.g. {\em Two Anglo-Saxon Pontificals (the Egbert and Sidney
> Sussex Pontificals)}, 
> ed. H. M. J. Banting, Henry Bradshaw Society 104 (Woodbridge, 1989)
We have changed the behaviour of Bibtex. We have reserved 'volume' for the 
volume number of a multiple volume work. We use series combined with number to 
do what you want. So put the number in the series in number instead of volume. 
We have an additional 'volumetitle' to put a separate volumetitle into.
> 
> The reason for this being that some departments require a comma
> before the series 
> number, so it would need something like {/seriesnumbersep}{,\space},
> yielding Henry 
> Bradshaw Society, 104 [...].  The same applies to the separation
> between journal titles 
> and volumes, but I think there's already a variable for that.  I just
> have to find it!
I think these things are possible already. Just have a look at your .bbl file 
after you ran bibtex. It contains all the variables!
> 
> 6. et al. to be italicized (should be a small thing?)
No idea.
> 
> 7. When the pages=always option is used, and a specific page is cited
> as well, can the 
> word "at" be included in the separation?
> 
>      e.g. Rudolf, {\em Vita S. Leobae}, ed. G. Waitz, {\em Vita
> Leobae abbatissae 
> Biscofesheimensis}, MGH Scriptores XVI (1887), pp. 118--31, at p. 119.
> 
Probably. Seriously: are your supervisors that strict? They should bettert write 
excellent books rather than check whether you obey their bad habits in citation 
matters. Id be glad that I didn´t write my dissertation at Cambridge. :-)
Cheers,

Maarten Wisse



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