Re: A couple of doubts about formating

"Julio Rojas" <[email protected]> Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:51:26 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.bibtex.jurabib.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Sorry Matthias, as I said on that list I didn't want to offend anybody. I
just need to tweak these problems and need it to be done ASAP. Maybe it is
my bad choice of words that lead you to believe I was complaining. Please,
don't believe that, I just needed help and this list is slower than
BibDesk's. As for your suggestions I'll follow them on my next thread,
because I believed a minimal example would be just a couple of lines that
show the problem, keeping the header in case some problem is found there.

I'll check your tips and will reply in case I need more help.

Again, sorry for the problems and thanx for your help.


On 3/25/06, Matthias Damm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Am 23.03.2006 um 15:29 schrieb Julio Rojas:
>
>
> > Hi, I have a couple of doubts about the format of my references and
> > quotations.
>
> First of all:
> In the BibDesk list you are complaining that you are not getting
> answers fast enough here.
>
> Three comments to that:
>
> - This is not a professional support hotline. Everybody who helps you
> here does this when and because he likes to do so.
> Answers make take longer than two days.
>
> - It's nice that you supply example documents, but they are not
> minimal examples. Please take out all your \geometry etc. stuff, keep
> only what is needed to reproduce your problems.
> Please respect the rules, as quoted in every mail footer:
> "If you have a problem, please provide a complete minimal example
> document (with a small bibliography database), which runs out of he
> box without any superfluous packages loaded, otherwise we could not
> help. "
>
> - It is more than disencouraging that you don't follow up to the
> answers you have been getting here. Please reply to the answers you
> are getting and tell those who help you if the solutions worked!
>
>
> > The first one: as you can see in the example, I need to use the
> > "author:year" format, but Jurabib adds an space after the author,
> > which i don't really like. Is there any way to remove it via:
> >
> > \renewcommand{\jbcitationyearformat}[1]{:#1}
>
> Try
>
> \renewcommand{\jbcitationyearformat}[1]{\unskip:#1}
>
>
> > Second: on the references the address is placed before the
> > publisher (address: publisher). Is there any way to invert this
> > format (publisher, address)???
>
> None that I know of, probably not an easy one.
>
>
> > Third: on the first reference, you can see it says "1a edición" and
> > nothing more. If you see on my bibliography file, the record for
> > this reference has more to say, because it is a revised first
> > edition and I would like to see that info on the document. Someone
> > on the list told me to use anothe set of curly braces around the
> > text. It works, like you can see on the second reference, but word
> > "edición" keeps getting added at the end of the text. Any way to
> > solve this problem, like a "revision" field???
>
> Dirty hack:
>
> \AddTo\bibsspanish{%
>          \def\editionname{\unskip}%
> }
>
> This will remove the "edicion" for all edition fields however.
>
> I think, jurabib should do the following here:
> - Add the "edicion" string for all edition fields without curly brackets
> - Don't add it for all edition fields without curly brackets
>
> Or, alternatively,
> - Add the "edicion" string for all edition fields
> - Implement a "textedition" field where the string is not added.
>
>
> > Fourth: The chapter on the first reference is separated by an space
> > from the word "Capítulo" (Capítulo II), but on the third this is
> > not the case, as the chapter is joined with the word
> > "Capítulo" (CapítuloVIII). Is this a bug???
>
> It is not really joined, but the font's kerning moves the "V" very
> close to the "o", which indeed looks odd.
>
> This should be changed in jurabib.bst:
>
> Line 1750:
> -      { "\unskip.\,-- \bibchapterlongname" }
> +      { "\unskip.\,-- \bibchapterlongname\/" }
>
>
> I wonder why this does not work:
>
> \AddTo\bibsspanish{%
>      \def\bibchapterlongname{Cap\'itulo\/}%
>
> }
>
> > Fifth: I use "number" field in the "incollection" record to hold
> > the "Tome" number of the book used in that collection. As you can
> > see, on the third reference it is not used thou it is present on
> > the record. Any idea about this???
>
> It is not intended that you use "number" and "volume" at once
> (although it might make sense in this case).
> Workaround:
> Number = {Tomo II, Volumen II}
>
>
> > Sixth: On the first two references, between the collection name and
> > the chapter there are no separators but a space. I would like to
> > place a period or a comma there.
>
> Do you mean before the "Tomo I"?
>
> Perhaps something like this helps:
>
> \makeatletter
> \DeclareRobustCommand{\numberandseries}[2]{%
>      \unskip\unskip\unskip%
>      \ifjb@jox\space\else,\space\fi
>      \bibsnfont{#2}%
>      \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{}}{\space}{,~#1}%
> }%
> \makeatother
>
> hth
> best regards,
> Matthias
>
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