Re: bibliography with certain canonical reference

jbf <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
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Ah yes, JP, that left andright did the trick. I almost (but not quite!) 
discovered that myself, since when you gave me righttext, I quickly 
worked out that there would be a lefttext as well, and was doing some 
experimentation with other potential options... but it might have taken 
me a while to stumble on it, so thanks.

By the way, I didn't need that comma. My fault. When I gave you the 
earlier result, I omitted the comma that author had already produced.

And thanks for the extra little comment on the /Nichomachean Ethics/. Of 
course, I am just the typesetter, not the author of the passage in 
question, though I am also reasonable well-versed in Aristotelian 
philosophy, which is why the author chose me I suppose! So I will pass 
on your comment to him.

As for Kirk's observation about the 'intersentence' space... I have to 
say I am not noticing that. I tried out his \null\ but it did not appear 
to do anything in this particular case. I'll keep an eye on it for 
future citations should something occur. For now, it's on to those other 
citations, which, yes, include the expected canonical references to q. 
qq. and a and ad from the /Summa/! But I think I am now equipped to 
handle all that with your help, so should not need to bother you again.

Julian

On 17/8/26 20:27, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Julian,
>
> I looked more carefully at the ConTeXt publications manual, and there 
> is a cleaner way to handle the parentheses as part of the citation itself.
>
> |lefttext| and |righttext| add material to the individual citation 
> entry, whereas |left| and |right| delimit the citation as a whole. So 
> could you try:
>
> \cite
> [alternative=author,
> left={(},
> right={)},
> righttext={{, ca. 350 BCE/2009}}]
> [main::aristotle2009ethics]
>
> This should produce:
>
> (Aristotle, ca. 350 BCE/2009)
>
> The double braces around |righttext| are intentional because the added 
> text contains a comma.
>
> Best//JP
>
>
> Le 17/08/2026 à 11:16, jbf a écrit :
>>
>> Before retiring for the night I have quickly checked out your 
>> suggestion (and don't worry about the change of date to 2009, since 
>> this is the real date I need to deal with):
>>
>> [alternative=author,
>>
>> righttext={{ca. 350 BCE/2009}}]
>>
>> [main::aristotle2009ethics]
>>
>>
>> produces:
>>
>> Aristotle ca. 350 BCE/2009
>>
>> Nearly there, so to get parentheses around it and produce (Aristotle, 
>> ca. 350 BCE/2009), this is how I treated the entire paragraph where 
>> the citation appears:
>>
>>
>> Aristotle understood that character is formed through repeated 
>> action. We become just or unjust, courageous or cowardly, temperate 
>> or self-indulgent through what we repeatedly choose and practise (\cite
>>
>> [alternative=author,
>>
>> righttext={{ca. 350 BCE/2009}}]
>>
>> [main::aristotle2009ethics]). Actions become habits, habits shape 
>> character, and character influences what becomes easier or harder to 
>> perceive and choose. Human beings remain capable of change, but 
>> freedom gradually acquires a history.
>>
>>
>> Julian
>> On 17/8/26 17:35, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote:
>>>
>>> No problem at all, Julian — take your time. Translation work has a 
>>> way of absorbing the whole day!
>>> I’ll be interested to hear what you get from the test when you have 
>>> a chance to try it.
>>> Have a good evening.
>>>
>>> JP
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 17/08/2026 à 09:07, jbf a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Caught up in other work right now JP (translation), and already 
>>>> evening here, so it might be tomorrow before I can get back to 
>>>> this. I'll let you know how it goes.
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>
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