Re: TexWorks 2025 and Wiley NJDv5 Template Compile Problem

Max Chernoff via tex-live <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.live
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Alois,

On Thu, 2026-02-05 at 16:37 +0100, Alois Steindl wrote:
> It is considered as quite offending, if you ask to have the answer sent
> to you directly. It sounds like "Normally I am not interested in the
> conversations here. But now I have some strange problem and want to have
> that resolved. I am too lazy to look into the list regularly."

That seems a bit harsh to me. From what I can tell, this is Edward's
first post to the [email protected] mailing list, and is quite likely his
first ever post to *any* plain text mailing list. And as someone fairly
new to these lists myself, I can confirm that it's really hard to learn
how to use them effectively, since the social expectations are very
different from elsewhere on the internet.

I've often added the following phrase

    I'm not subscribed to this list, so please keep me CC'd in any replies

to my own messages, and I've seen many other people use similar phrases
too. My guess is that this is what Edward meant to say, but if he's
unfamiliar with plain text mailing lists, it's unsurprising that he
didn't use the "correct" phrasing. And even if he is familiar, the rest
of his message is polite and courteous enough that I find the email
address request to be completely benign.

As a more general note, can we (all) please try to be nicer to
newcomers? I've noticed a pattern where users' first ever messages are
sometimes met with mildly unfriendly replies---never anything outright
hostile or rude, but often not very welcoming. I'm not saying that we
shouldn't ever correct new users, just that we should all try and assume
that any mistakes are inadvertent rather than intentional.

I've noticed this from *many* different people, so this comment isn't
directed at anyone in particular; I've even caught myself doing this
before. But if we want to encourage new users to use these mailing
lists, then I personally think that it's more important to be
accommodating than to expect "correct" phrasing from someone's first
post.

Thanks,
-- Max

(I'll also add that I'm technically one of the assistant administrators
for these lists, but everything that I've said here is just my personal
opinion, and not an official rule in any way. So feel free to disregard
this message entirely if you disagree.)
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