Re: foreign letter in text
"Aleks Kleyn" <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:21:38 -0400
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If you interesting I attached short file where I tested your advice. In =
this file still works as I expect. However write now I found source of =
problem. Few years ago after some change in Babel I had a lot of errors =
which canceled translation before time. Somebody advised me to use macro
\UseRawInputEncoding
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And it worked as I expected, but now when I put it after =
\usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc} it canceled usepackage.
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Aleks Kleyn
<http://alekskleyn.dyndns-home.com:4080/> =
http://alekskleyn.dyndns-home.com:4080/ =20
<http://sites.google.com/site/alekskleyn/> =
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<http://arxiv.org/a/kleyn_a_1> http://arxiv.org/a/kleyn_a_1 =20
<http://AleksKleyn.blogspot.com/> http://AleksKleyn.blogspot.com/
<http://kleynaleks.blogspot.com/> http://KleynAleks.blogspot.com/
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Derivative in Banach algebra
dx2
=3D1=E2=8A=97 x+x=E2=8A=971
dx
d x2 =3D(1=E2=8A=97 x+x=E2=8A=971) =E2=97=A6dx=3Ddx x+x dx
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From: Aleks Kleyn [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 11:02 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [pdftex] foreign letter in text
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I use pdflatex since 2007, at that time windows notepad saved files in =
ANSI encoding. Sometimes when some symbol changed encoding to Unicode, =
pdflatex was unable to compile such files. So I was careful about this =
issue. Sometimes I use Russian symbols to make sure that compiler will =
remind me that I need to make changes in text for which I am not ready =
at current time. Sometimes I do translation to English later because I =
need to write original text faster.
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So I added \usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc} as last usepackage macro and it =
does work for me. When I returned it to the beginning of text like it =
was originally I see that it does not work. In short example I did not =
see which macro cancels expected change. But at this time this is not =
important because I want to finish my text as soon as I can.
=20
You wrote that pdflatex changed encoding few years ago. But I saw proper =
error messages even last winter. I use all years MikTeX. When I recently =
install TeXlive, I saw some problem in MikTeX so I uninstalled TeXlive. =
I have about 70 folders and few thousands files. I do not think that it =
is reasonable to spent time to change encoding. And what happens if =
somebody will make quietly another change which again destroy all =
previous work.
=20
I appreciate your help.
=20
Aleks Kleyn
<http://alekskleyn.dyndns-home.com:4080/> =
http://alekskleyn.dyndns-home.com:4080/ =20
<http://sites.google.com/site/alekskleyn/> =
http://sites.google.com/site/AleksKleyn/=20
<http://arxiv.org/a/kleyn_a_1> http://arxiv.org/a/kleyn_a_1 =20
<http://AleksKleyn.blogspot.com/> http://AleksKleyn.blogspot.com/
<http://kleynaleks.blogspot.com/> http://KleynAleks.blogspot.com/
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Derivative in Banach algebra
dx2
=3D1=E2=8A=97 x+x=E2=8A=971
dx
d x2 =3D(1=E2=8A=97 x+x=E2=8A=971) =E2=97=A6dx=3Ddx x+x dx
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From: pdftex [mailto:pdftex-bounces+aleks_kleyn=3Dmailaps.org-WUdSmCIlby8@public.gmane.org] =
On Behalf Of David Carlisle via pdftex
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 6:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [pdftex] foreign letter in text
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On 22/04/2024 21:59, Aleks Kleyn wrote:
I discovered one more interesting thing. When I put =
\usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc} in the beginning of document (like it was =
originally), I get wrong error reporting. This macro works properly when =
it come last in the set of packages. This means that some packages =
change input encoding.
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Packages should not change the declared encoding of the main document, =
but quite possibly some do, that would be an issue to raise with the =
package maintainer. There is nothing that pdftex can do about that.
This list is really about the pdftex engine, which is not directly =
involved, all the features you are discussing are purely about the latex =
macro layer.
but \usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc} can only do anything useful if the =
files are actually in the Windows Code page 1251 encoding.
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You have not said what encoding your files are in, nor given any =
example, nor said what error you got.
I am guessing that your issue is related to the change of default =
encoding for latex in 2018, but that should not have affected any =
document that was correctly declaring the encoding it was using, so it =
is surprising to see it causing problems now.
You also have not said what change you made, certainly if you updated =
from texlive 2023 to 2024 my guess that it was related to the default =
encoding can not be right.
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If you showed a small document and said what system you used previously =
where it worked, and said what it does wrong in texlive 2024, someone =
could help, otherwise I really can not guess any more.
I would still say you should consider re-encoding your files to UTF-8 =
(back them up first but then you should be able to convert them all with =
various commandline tools, you would not have to edit each file "by =
hand")
David
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source of problem. Few years ago after some change in Babel I had a lot =
of errors which canceled translation before time. Somebody advised me to =
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style=3D'text-autospace:none'><span =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'>Derivative in Banach algebra</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table =
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style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><u><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>dx<sup>2</sup></span></u></i><i><u><sup><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
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color:#1F497D'>=3D1</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97 </span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>x+x</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>1</span></i><span =
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style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=C2=A0 d<sub> </sub>x<sup>2</sup> =
=3D(1</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97 </span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>x+x</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
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rif";color:#1F497D'> =E2=97=A6dx</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=3Ddx x+x dx</span></i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Aleks Kleyn [mailto:[email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
April 23, 2024 11:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
'[email protected]'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [pdftex] foreign letter in =
text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I use pdflatex since 2007, at that time windows notepad saved files =
in ANSI encoding. Sometimes when some symbol changed encoding to =
Unicode, pdflatex was unable to compile such files. So I was careful =
about this issue. Sometimes I use Russian symbols to make sure that =
compiler will remind me that I need to make changes in text for which I =
am not ready at current time. Sometimes I do translation to English =
later because I need to write original text =
faster.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>So I added </span>\usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc}<span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> as last usepackage macro and it does work for me. When I returned it =
to the beginning of text like it was originally I see that it does not =
work. In short example I did not see which macro cancels expected =
change. But at this time this is not important because I want to finish =
my text as soon as I can.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>You wrote that pdflatex changed encoding few years ago. But I saw =
proper error messages even last winter. I use all years MikTeX. When I =
recently install TeXlive, I saw some problem in MikTeX so I uninstalled =
TeXlive. I have about 70 folders and few thousands files. I do not think =
that it is reasonable to spent time to change encoding. And what happens =
if somebody will make quietly another change which again destroy all =
previous work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I appreciate your help.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Aleks =
Kleyn</span><span =
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D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=3DMsoNormalTable border=3D0 =
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497D'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><a =
href=3D"http://arxiv.org/a/kleyn_a_1"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Consolas'>http://a=
rxiv.org/a/kleyn_a_1</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F=
497D'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><a =
href=3D"http://AleksKleyn.blogspot.com/"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Consolas'>http://A=
leksKleyn.blogspot.com/</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><a =
href=3D"http://kleynaleks.blogspot.com/"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Consolas'>http://K=
leynAleks.blogspot.com/</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td><td width=3D466 =
valign=3Dtop style=3D'width:174.85pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'>Derivative in Banach algebra</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table =
class=3DMsoNormalTable border=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 =
style=3D'border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=3Dtop =
style=3D'padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><u><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>dx<sup>2</sup></span></u></i><i><u><sup><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/sup></u></i></p></td><td rowspan=3D2 style=3D'padding:0in 5.4pt 0in =
5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=3D1</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97 </span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>x+x</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>1</span></i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></td></tr><tr><td valign=3Dtop style=3D'padding:0in 5.4pt 0in =
5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>dx</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/i></p></td></tr></table><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'> d<sub> </sub>x<sup>2</sup> =
=3D(1</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97 </span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>x+x</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>1)</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'> =E2=97=A6dx</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=3Ddx x+x dx</span></i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
pdftex [mailto:pdftex-bounces+aleks_kleyn=3Dmailaps.org-WUdSmCIlby8@public.gmane.org] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>David Carlisle via pdftex<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April =
22, 2024 6:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[pdftex] foreign letter in text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
22/04/2024 21:59, Aleks Kleyn wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I discovered one more interesting thing. When I put =
</span>\usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc}<span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> in the beginning of document (like it was originally), I get wrong =
error reporting. This macro works properly when it come last in the set =
of packages. This means that some packages change input =
encoding.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Packages should not change the declared encoding of =
the main document, but quite possibly some do, that would be an issue to =
raise with the package maintainer. There is nothing that pdftex can do =
about that.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This list is really about the pdftex =
engine, which is not directly involved, all the features you are =
discussing are purely about the latex macro layer.<o:p></o:p></p><p>but =
\usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc} can only do anything useful if the files =
are actually in the Windows Code page 1251 =
encoding.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p>You have not said =
what encoding your files are in, nor given any example, nor said =
what error you got.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I am guessing that your issue is =
related to the change of default encoding for latex in 2018, but that =
should not have affected any document that was correctly declaring the =
encoding it was using, so it is surprising to see it causing problems =
now.<o:p></o:p></p><p>You also have not said what change you made, =
certainly if you updated from texlive 2023 to 2024 my guess that it was =
related to the default encoding can not be =
right.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p>If you showed a small =
document and said what system you used previously where it worked, and =
said what it does wrong in texlive 2024, someone could help, otherwise I =
really can not guess any more.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I would still say you =
should consider re-encoding your files to UTF-8 (back them up first but =
then you should be able to convert them all with various commandline =
tools, you would not have to edit each file "by =
hand")<o:p></o:p></p><p>David<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#66666=
6'>Disclaimer</span></b><span =
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