Re: foreign letter in text

"Aleks Kleyn" <[email protected]> Tue, 2 Jul 2024 13:30:47 -0400
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I converted files to UTF-8 and got very unexpected output

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\documentclass{amsbook}

\usepackage{cmap}

\usepackage[T2A,T2B]{fontenc}

\usepackage[english,russian]{babel}

\selectlanguage{russian}

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\begin{document}

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\chapter{=D0=91=D1=83=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=8B =
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You that chapter is printed very interesting way. I think before =
somebody makes so dramatic change in source input, this should very =
careful tested. I do not tell that during our life we accumulate a lot =
of source files and we need to be sure that even when we finish our way, =
somebody should be able to work with these files.

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Aleks Kleyn


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Derivative in Banach algebra


dx2

=3D1=E2=8A=97 x+x=E2=8A=971


dx

  d x2 =3D(1=E2=8A=97 x+x=E2=8A=971) =E2=97=A6dx=3Ddx x+x dx

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From: David Carlisle [mailto:david.carlisle-ueUsWbEuBr1aa/[email protected]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 12:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [pdftex] foreign letter in text

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On 23/04/2024 16:21, Aleks Kleyn wrote

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you interesting I attached short file where I tested your advice. In =
this file still works as I  expect. However write now I found source of =
problem. Few years ago after some change in Babel I had a lot of errors =
which canceled translation before time. Somebody advised me to use macro

\UseRawInputEncoding

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Oh that disables all of latex's encoding support, it is useful for some =
very specific cases where a package is defining its own encoding support =
that conflicts with the standard latex mechanisms, but in general if you =
use that then you are responsible for all aspects of the character =
encoding.  (but again that hasn't changed since 2018) If you had =
provided an example in your first message this thread would have been a =
lot shorter:-)

David

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D'>You that chapter is printed very interesting way. I think before =
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careful tested. I do not tell that during our life we accumulate a lot =
of source files and we need to be sure that even when we finish our way, =
somebody should be able to work with these =
files.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Kleyn</span><span =
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5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'>Derivative in Banach algebra</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table =
class=3DMsoNormalTable border=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 =
style=3D'border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=3Dtop =
style=3D'padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><u><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>dx<sup>2</sup></span></u></i><i><u><sup><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/sup></u></i></p></td><td rowspan=3D2 style=3D'padding:0in 5.4pt 0in =
5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=3D1</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97 </span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>x+x</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>1</span></i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></td></tr><tr><td valign=3Dtop style=3D'padding:0in 5.4pt 0in =
5.4pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>dx</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/i></p></td></tr></table><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:115%'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=C2=A0 d<sub> </sub>x<sup>2</sup> =
=3D(1</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97 </span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>x+x</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria =
Math","serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=8A=97</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>1)</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'> =E2=97=A6dx</span></i><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";=
color:#1F497D'>=3Ddx x+x dx</span></i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:115%'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></td></div></td></tr>=
</table><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
David Carlisle [mailto:david.carlisle-ueUsWbEuBr1aa/[email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Tuesday, April 23, 2024 12:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pdftex] foreign letter =
in text<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
23/04/2024 16:21, Aleks Kleyn wrote<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>you interesting I attached short file where I tested your advice. In =
this file still works as I &nbsp;expect. However write now I found =
source of problem. Few years ago after some change in Babel I had a lot =
of errors which canceled translation before time. Somebody advised me to =
use macro</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Cascadia =
Mono";color:black'>\UseRawInputEncoding</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><p>Oh that disables all of latex's encoding support, it is useful for =
some very specific cases where a package is defining its own encoding =
support that conflicts with the standard latex mechanisms, but in =
general if you use that then you are responsible for all aspects of the =
character encoding.&nbsp; (but again that hasn't changed since 2018) If =
you had provided an example in your first message this thread would have =
been a lot =
shorter:-)<o:p></o:p></p><p>David<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#66666=
6'>Disclaimer</span></b><span =
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