Re: Metrics and map file for Adobe Utopia

Hi Thomas,

On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Esser wrote:
> The files are part of teTeX:
> 
> $ /t/ctan/systems/unix/teTeX/3.0/distrib> tar ztvf tetex-texmfsrc-3.0.tar.gz | grep freen
> -rw-r--r-- root/root    322470 2004-09-15 23:48:48 source/latex/psnfss/freenfss.zip
> 
> A simple
>   cd `kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFDIST`
>   unzip -qo source/latex/psnfss/freenfss.zip
>   texhash
> makes the metrics available for regular use.

I would say that is a good example for 'no user-level installation
instructions'. ;-) Seriously, I typically install tetex-texmfsrc, simply
because it is often useful to look at the (documented) source if
something goes wrong. But I would never have thought about installing
anything from there, since it seemed obvious to me that everything from
tetex-texmfsrc is in tetex-texmf in a 'ready to use' form. I don't think
I am alone with this. Maybe I should rephrase my wish: Please include
the metrics and the mapfile for Utopia in tetex-texmf.
 
> The Adobe Utopia fonts are no free software in the FSF sense (with the
> consequence, for example, that Thanh does not know if he can distribute
> his modified versions).

Are you refering to the discussion on tex-fonts or to the quote (that
initiated that discussion) posted to tex-live? After the discussion on
tex-fonts I think it was pretty clear that one is not allowed to
distribute any fonts derived from Utopia. Otherwise it would be free in
the FSF sense. But let's see if the current discussion on tex-live
brings anything new.

> In this situation, I don't want to encourage
> people to use these fonts.

I find this difficult to understand, especially as metrics for the
commercial Lucida and MathTime fonts are included in tetex-texmf. The
destinction between, say, Charter and Utopia should be clear for most
people, since the Utopia fonts have to be downloaded separately.

cheerio
ralf