Re: Localized English words ('See', 'see', 'Short Table of Contents') (TeX output)

Em ter., 3 de mar. de 2026 =C3=A0s 14:43, Patrice Dumas <[email protected]> =
escreveu:
>
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 03:01:44AM -0300, Jamenson Espindula wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Operating System: Linux From Scratch (LFS) 12.4 - System V Edition
> > texi2any (GNU texinfo) 7.2
> >
> > I just finished translating the manual for GNU Texinfo into Brazilian
> > Portuguese.
> >
> > However, I need to change some words in the output (I generated the
> > HTML version, only for inspections).
>
> The HTML version is not generated by TeX using 'texinfo.tex'.  It is
> generated by texi2any, a different program:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Generic-Tra=
nslator-texi2any.html
>
> The TeX 'texinfo.tex' is used when generating PDF, by using texi2pdf.
>
> > I found a thread that (almost) discusses the same subject:
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-texinfo/2025-12/msg00001.html
> >
> > Different from that, I made some tests. I have a 'texinfo.tex' file in
> > my operating system at '/usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex'.
> >
> > In my 'texinfo.pt_BR.texi', in the first line, I just deleted the
> > '\input texinfo.tex    @c -*-texinfo-*-' line.
> >
> > I did expect an error from texi2any (texi2any --html --no-split
> > --output=3Dteste-mono.html texinfo.pt_BR.texi).
> >
> > However, surprisingly, 'teste-mono.html' was output!
>
> texi2any do not need this line, it is needed by TeX, called through
> texi2pdf.
>
> > That made me think '/usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex' was not
> > used. So, which 'texinfo.tex' was used?
>
> None when outputing HTML.
>
> > Same about 'txi-pt.tex' (/usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/txi-pt.tex). I
> > need some different words from that file ('txi-pt.tex') and I can not
> > get it. What am I missing?
> >
> > Please, in the response, tell me what commands to issue. :)
>
> texi2any is the right one for HTML.  With texi2any, the translations of
> words such as See, ... in the HTML output is done by using gettext and
> translations managed by the translation project.  This is explained
> here:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Internation=
alization-of-Document-Strings.html
>
> The corresponding page in the translation project is here:
> https://translationproject.org/domain/texinfo_document.html
>
> If you want to change the translated strings in HTML output, it is
> possible, but then you need to use the texi2any Perl customization API.
> It is explained here:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texi2any_api/html_node/Transl=
ated-Strings-Customization.html
>
> This is not straightforward, therefore, but should be doable with some
> knowledge of Perl.
>
> --
> Pat

Thank you, Patrice, for your reply.

I am not a programmer. I am just a translator. I know nothing about
programming in Perl, or in any other programming language.

Please, as an example, could you write here the _exact commands_ I
should emit to get 'See' translated as 'Veja-se'?

Thank you in advance.

Jamenson Espindula