Re: UK Atlas load/usage warning email

Karl Dietz <[email protected]> Tue, 10 May 2016 11:48:35 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 10.05.2016 10:24, Dreamcat4 wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Nigel Jewell <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     On 09/05/2016 21:44, Neil Bird wrote:
>
>     >      I've just had an email from MetaBroadcast (Atlas) warning me
>     that I'm
>     >  requesting “excessive” amounts of data.  Has anyone else got this?
>     >
>
>     I've been using this grabber for months with MythTV without issue.
>
>     Maybe it is worth asking MB directly what issue they are seeing.  I
>     understand that they are pretty responsive (although I've never received
>     a response to any query).

This is a general design issue for every adapter between the atlas api
and xmltv files.

> Either:
>
> a) It is costing them server time / server bandwidth (more downloads =
> more server costs)
>
> or
>
> b) They have to pay other information providers more the more we use it
>
> or
>
> c) They have a contract with information providers not to go over
> certain limits
>
>
> I think the distinction is important. Because with a) it could be
> possible to come up with a caching server.
>
> Wheras with b) or c) you have to wonder if there is any other sharing
> agreements (to be able to re-distribute the EPG data from certain
> sources). For example Publishers Wharehouse? In which case the access
> may be limited to per-user (ie for personal use). Not to provide
> 'cometing services' and such.

Metabroadcast is pretty responsive. As this is a general issue for
every UK user I suggest to take it to their api user's group.
It fell silent, but there has been lots of brain storming about
Atlas+XMLTV in the past.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/atlasapi/xmltv

I've been thinking about a solution for a) by generating static
xmltv files upstream (as others do) some time ago
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/atlasapi/break$20even/atlasapi/NSogJVE0yYY/g7cKnk5p_zsJ
To mix API key requirenment with static cacheable files these could
be encrypted with a random key per file and the directory of
files+keys served by a dynamic service that tests the API key.

If that's the way forward you can "simply" add another feed next to
the RadioTimes "XMLTV" feed.
https://github.com/atlasapi/atlas-feeds/tree/master/src/main/java/org/atlasapi/feeds/xmltv

> Robert was kind enough to respond on other thread something about
>
> https://github.com/kgroeneveld/tv_grab_sd_json
>
> Which unfortunately I didn't really understand.

Schedules Direct is offering guide data for UK (and many more
countries) to their paying members.
This was announced just last friday, see
http://www.schedulesdirect.org/
http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2791

Regards,
Karl

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