Re: tv_grab_uk_rt users: An important update :(

Dave,

Thanks for the post. Looks like the SD data is reasonably comprehensive,
but sadly looks like the episode numbering system is not one of the
predefined ones in DTD (xmltv_ns / onscreen). Do you know if that's
configurable/translatable ?

To answer your question - yes it would be handy to compare a longer
listing example. 
I'm particularly interested in sub-title in the absence of consistent
episode numbers across grabbers - I don't see that in your SD example. 
For example, here's "Blue Eyes" on Friday via UK_RT

  <programme start="20160520210000 +0100" stop="20160520220000 +0100"
channel="more4.channel4.com">

    <title>Blue Eyes</title>

    <sub-title>The Wake</sub-title>

    <desc lang="en">Trapped with Mattias at the Veritas hideout, Sofia
tends to his wounds, but an unsettling feeling torments her: Elin is
contacted by an unexpected party who suggests a collaboration that could
benefit them both, while the police identify Gustav through the CCTV
pictures from the stock exchange. Thriller, starring Karin Franz Korlof
and Adam Lundgren. In Swedish.</desc>

    <credits>

      <director>Henrik Georgsson</director>

      <actor role="Elin Hammar">Louise Peterhoff</actor>

      <actor role="Gunnar Elvestad">Sven Nordin</actor>

      <actor role="Sofia Nilsson">Karin Franz Korlof</actor>

      <actor role="Simon Nilsson">David Lindstrom</actor>

      <actor role="Mattias Cedergren">Adam Lundgren</actor>

      <actor role="Gustav Akerlund">Erik Johansson</actor>

      <actor role="Olle Nordlof">Kjell Wilhelmsen</actor>

      <actor role="Rebecka Lundstrom">Cecilia Frode</actor>

      <actor role="Veronika Stromstedt">Marie Richardson</actor>

      <actor role="Max Ahman">Linus Wahlgren</actor>

      <actor role="Ludwig Biehlers">Daniel Larsson</actor>

      <actor role="Janina Hansson">Malgorzata Pieczynska</actor>

      <actor role="Johan Juhlin">Jimmy Lindstrom</actor>

      <actor role="Peter Westman">Marten Klingberg</actor>

      <actor role="Kristoffer Palm">Filip Berg</actor>

      <actor role="Erik Hilte">Peter Schildt</actor>

      <actor role="Johan Landin">Johan Hedenberg</actor>

      <actor role="Asa Jansson">Lisbeth Johansson</actor>

      <actor role="Nadine Farzin">Mina Azarian</actor>

      <actor role="Nils Huldt">Kassel Ulving</actor>

      <actor role="Statsministern">Niklas Hjulstrom</actor>

    </credits>

    <category lang="en">Drama</category>

    <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">0.8/10.</episode-num>

    <video>

      <quality>SDTV</quality>

    </video>

  </programme>



On 19/05/2016 11:28, Dave Slee wrote:
> ----
> So, someone asked about a specific programme: Videogame Nation. Here's
> snippets of both... Sorry, I don't have over-lapping episode data but be
> assured the "atlas_progid" is different from  the "dd_progid"
>
> First Atlas:
>
> =======================================
>
> 	<programme start="20160514110000 +0100" stop="20160514113000 +0100"
> channel="I146.hkx2.metabroadcast.com">
> 		<title lang="en">Videogame Nation</title>
> 		<sub-title lang="en">Episode 18</sub-title>
> 		<desc lang="en">Dan Maher, John Robertson and Aoife Wilson
> discuss video games.</desc>
> 		<category lang="en">computers/internet/gaming</category>
> 		<icon
> src="http://images.atlas.metabroadcast.com/pressassociation.com/webANXvideog
> amenationjohnr.jpg" />
> 		<episode-num system="atlas_progid">d5znf2</episode-num>
> 		<episode-num system="xmltv_ns">3.17.</episode-num>
> 		<new />
> 	</programme>
>
> =======================================
>
> Now SD:
>
> =======================================
>
>   <programme start="20160528100000 +0000" stop="20160528103000 +0000"
> channel="I45283.json.schedulesdirect.org">
>     <title>Videogame Nation</title>
>     <desc>An irreverent look at videogaming culture.</desc>
>     <category>Technology</category>
>     <category>Gaming</category>
>     <category>Series</category>
>     <category>tvshow</category>
>     <episode-num system="dd_progid">SH019042870000</episode-num>
>     <audio>
>       <stereo>stereo</stereo>
>     </audio>
>     <previously-shown start="20140428000000 +0100" />
>     <new />
>     <subtitles type="teletext" />
>   </programme>
>
> =======================================
>
> Another from SD:
>
> =======================================
>
>   <programme start="20160521100000 +0000" stop="20160521103000 +0000"
> channel="I45283.json.schedulesdirect.org">
>     <title>Videogame Nation</title>
>     <desc>It shows how video games have progressed over more than 30
> years.</desc>
>     <credits>
>       <director>Adam Mason</director>
>       <presenter>John Robertson</presenter>
>       <presenter>Dan Maher</presenter>
>       <presenter>Aoife Wilson</presenter>
>     </credits>
>     <category>Gaming</category>
>     <category>Entertainment</category>
>     <category>Series</category>
>     <category>tvshow</category>
>     <episode-num system="dd_progid">SH018955230000</episode-num>
>     <audio>
>       <stereo>stereo</stereo>
>     </audio>
>     <previously-shown start="20140330000000 +0100" />
>     <new />
>     <subtitles type="teletext" />
>   </programme>
>
> =======================================
>
> So those examples seem to confirm:
>
> * The Atlas and SD programme IDs are different so anyone using these to
> detect if they have a full collection of episodes will start seeing
> duplication
> * Perhaps both Atlas and SD have similarly generic descriptions of these
> niche programmes. I suspect the Atlas/PA data might be a little more
> comprehensive
> * The SD data seems to be better as programmes are "closer in". At 14 days
> out the descriptions seem quite terse, but at 7 days out there seems to be
> more data available - now that's EXACTLY what I want from a 14 day EPG -
> early warning that a programme is scheduled, THEN accurate data just before
> the recording to tag the recording in my collection for future watching.
>
> Anybody need any more examples? A "channels in the lineup" listing would be
> very long to post on here, but I could answer specific questions about what
> was in my Atlas download and is now in my SD subscription...
>
> However - I urge you to try this yourself with the SD 2 day free trial offer
> - that's not 2 days-worth of EPG data, that's 48 hours of access to the full
> service which for some channels reaches out to the thick end of 14 days.
> Robert's alpha version of xmltv.exe with tv_grab_sd_json is now working well
> enough on Windows machines (thanks Robert!) for you to have a go yourself. 
>
> D
>

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