RE: Launch* functions moved
"Oliver Giesen" <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.version-control.cvs.gui.devel |
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> Not being a Windows person myself: Could you shed some light on what > the difference between "Open" and "Edit" is? This was discussed at length before when I started implementing this. "Open" as it is currently used in WinCvs corresponds mostly to what would happen if you double-click a file in Explorer. However, this is often not what you want when working in in a version control system, e.g. you really don't want scripts to be executed or HTML pages to be opened in a browser. Instead you usually want to open them in an appropriate editor. For the two examples given it is of course usually OK to just use the default editor as specified in the WinCvs preferences but even there it's often more convenient to open them in a specialized editor application. Also, what about images? Usually the default double-click behaviour is to open them in some kind of view-only application (e.g. a web-browser), while again, when working in WinCvs, what you usually want to do is to edit them instead. Windows itself offers so called "verbs" to be executed on defined file types. Any application that can handle files of a specific type usually registers an "open" verb on installation. Some applications also register a dedicated "edit" verb (e.g. PythonWin) to make the distinction between viewing/executing (aka opening) a file vs. editing it. These non-default (i.e. non-double-click) verbs are available from the context menu when right-clicking a file in Explorer. The change I implemeted harnesses this OS mechanism by exposing both possiblities in the GUI. So far so good. However, we also decided to change the double-click behaviour accordingly. The downside is that far too many applications do NOT register an "edit" association by default (but often an "open" association instead) which has the effect that after upgrading to WinCvs 1.3.15 double-clicking a file often no longer opens it in its associated application but in the WinCvs default viewer instead (as that is the fallback when no "edit" association could be found). I still think that if you know about this mechanism and know how to use it this is a more than acceptable change and setting up new "edit" associations is a one-time operation (I even supplied a macro to ease this) but all that's currently in the release notes about this is: "Provide additional view and edit commands to fully utilize shell opening and editing files options (Shell Actions)". On hindsight (yes, I know it's a bit late for it really :( ), how about this slightly different approach: 1. Change default behaviour back to mimicking Explorer, i.e. double-clicking executes the default action as defined by the shell (whatever it is, "open", "edit", "editwithsyn", etc.). 2. Expose all available verbs in the WinCvs GUI by means of a dynamically built context-submenu. This should be relatively easy. You just have to enumerate entries of a certain registry key associated with the file type, there's probably an API for it already. 3. Offer an option to override the shell default double-click action for WinCvs only. This would create a WinCvs specific verb for the file type in question (e.g. "wincvsedit"). When double-clicking a file, we will first try to execute this verb, if that fails, we go for the default action (see 1.). In order not to clutter the Explorer context-menu with WinCvs-specific entries we would flag the created verb as "Extended" which would have the effect that it will only show up in Explorer when holding down the shift key while invoking the context menu. It wouldn't really invalidate any of the work already done but it would involve messing with the registry which Jerzy, as I understood, preferred to leave to my macros... ;) > I don't quite see whether it really makes life easier for users... It definitely could. I'm quite happy with it myself as I no longer have to drag and drop files from WinCvs to my editor applications but I could just as well understand why others complain... E.g. most C++ IDEs (e.g. BCB, VS) only register an "open" association instead of an "edit" association... > Yes, you anticipated this correctly. > A not-so-smart spam filter that _considers_ itself very smart is > sometimes worse than the spam by itself... ;-) Do you happen to be a list moderator? Could someone turn this off for cvsgui-dev too, please? I'm sending this one through the GMX web interface in the hopes that SpamGuard likes the headers better this way... Cheers, Oliver ---- ------------------ JID: [email protected] ICQ: 18777742 (http://wwp.icq.com/18777742) -- GMX ProMail (250 MB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS, Virenschutz, 2,99 EUR/Monat...) jetzt 3 Monate GRATIS + 3x DER SPIEGEL +++ http://www.gmx.net/derspiegel +++ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cvsgui-dev/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/