Re: Seeking Feedback on SVNPlus.com – A moder n SVN Solution

Hi,

I've never used Phabricator, but did spend hours setting up Phorge and 
it was still not able to create a review from a branch without a command 
line software on my desktop

RhodeCode after setting up, the instructions asked me to create a pull 
request. There was no button for it, and support informed me that: "Pull 
Requests are not supported for SVN repositories"

We're using Assembla for a couple projects, and it's regularly broken, a 
few months ago we could not review or merge anything for a week.
We had cases where what we reviewed is not what got merged.
Probably a user error on our end, but clearly shows that the general 
implementation is working from a wrong direction

RiouxSVN pricing is a nonstarter for me ($1 / 20 Mb? My small project 
repo is 9Gb)
And it's unclear for me, if I pay $500, I get 500 credits, that's 10Gb. 
Is it /month? than it's expensive. Is it a one time fee? Than who will 
maintain the system next year?
Do they have any review / merge solutions?

VisualSVN Server is windows only? I'm not comfortable running window servers

SCM-Manager and Cirata MultiSite I have not found before
I did not consider Redmine or similar project management solutions, I 
think reviews and merges are a separate problem, and should be in focus 
of the software, not a plugin or an afterthought
Do you think any of these could work for our requirements?

Do you have any other ideas, what could work? We don't want to create 
this if we don't have to :D

I'm happy to try these, and I'd love to create a subpage on our site, 
where we list our experience with other solutions, list where they would 
work, or where we excel with svnplus

Best regards,
Peter

On 2025. 03. 05. 14:51, Justin MASSIOT wrote:
> Hello Peter,
> Always great to hear fresh initiatives around Subversion :-)
>
> Some years ago, I was actively looking for such a tool. And even now 
> that Git is all over the place, I'm convinced that SVN has a role to 
> play. [1]
> And because Phabricator has winded down, I finally chose 
> *RhodeCode* which is an Open core web browser + manager for Git, Hg 
> and SVN.
>
> I wonder in which situation your solution is best compared to:
> * Assembla <https://get.assembla.com/subversion/>, or any other hosted 
> solution (RiouxSVN, Repositery.com, SlikSVN, just to name a few)
> * VisualSVN Server <https://www.visualsvn.com/>, or any other "local" 
> management solution
> * SCM-Manager <https://scm-manager.org/>, or any other web management 
> solution
> * Redmine 
> <https://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/HowTo_configure_Redmine_for_advanced_Subversion_integration>, 
> or any other project management / ALM system that has a plug-in to 
> manage SVN repositories (Tuleap, Trac, ...)
> * Cirata MultiSite 
> <https://cirata.com/devops/solutions/subversion> (formerly WANdisco), 
> or any other "enhanced" SVN solution
>
> I may guess, but it would be interesting to have your answer to better 
> understand _where is your added value_.
>
> Regards
> Justin MASSIOT  |  Zentek
>
> [1] Some brain food regarding the Git vs. SVN debate:
> https://www.bitquabit.com/post/unorthodocs-abandon-your-dvcs-and-return-to-sanity/
> https://svnvsgit.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 12:57, Peter Balogh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi SVN Users!
>
>     I'm Peter, and I'm excited to hear your feedback on *svnplus.com
>     <http://svnplus.com>*, our new project to address the challenges
>     we faced with SVN before.
>     In our search for an svn solution for our own projects, we
>     encountered several common issues with existing tools:
>     • *Security*: We need a solution with strong security measures,
>     including robust two-factor authentication (TOTP support).
>     • *Web-based workflow*: It should be easy to review and comment
>     changes, track branches and merge them from a browser.
>     • *Automatic merges*: The system should enforce that only approved
>     changes, and all approved changes get to the trunk.
>
>     I think these are simple requirements, but the best solutions
>     we've found are half baked hacks.
>     svnplus.com <http://svnplus.com> aims to solve these: create an
>     easy to self host, simple, secure, open svn solution.
>
>     We'll create an open source system that meets our basic needs.
>     We'll provide a DigitalOcean marketplace image that uses existing,
>     simple, open solutions to the problems above.
>     After that's done we want to continue and implement secure, fast
>     and user friendly solutions to have modern easy to use workflows.
>     We also plan to build a small team to dive deep into old issues
>     with svn itself, like the fact I can't setup a usable TOTP
>     solution today, or that data is duplicated on our devices.
>     We plan to offer low cost managed solutions and enterprise support
>     to cover the costs.
>
>     We have time, money, talents and enthusiasm to seriously work on
>     these issues
>
>     As SVN users, your experience and insights are invaluable. I’d
>     appreciate your thoughts on the following:
>
>     • *Shared Challenges*: Do the issues mentioned above reflect the
>     challenges you face with SVN in your projects?
>     • *Hosting*: Would you be interested in a hosted solution that
>     also offers the option for self-hosting, giving you full control
>     over your data?
>     • *Feature Wishlist*: Are there any additional features or
>     improvements you’d consider essential for a modern SVN system?
>     I'm happy to sign NDA and spend time understanding your issues,
>     and I'm open to be corrected, if these are all non-issues or
>     solvable problems but I've missed the solutions for them.
>
>     We think that in 2025 the version control landscape misses a good,
>     fast, reliable, simple to use centralized version control system
>     that can handle serious repository sizes and has good web support!
>     We want to build this!
>     If you agree, or if you don't, drop a reply, send a private email,
>     lets talk!
>     You can also show us your support by going to svnplus.com
>     <http://svnplus.com>, and pushing the heart icon in the top right
>     corner.
>     We need your feedback, confirmation or just a conversation to
>     know, this project worth our time. We seriously think it is!
>
>     Best regards,
>     Peter
>     Founder, SVNPlus
>