Re: [CinePaint] Difficulties posting and CinePaint Rocketry

Robin Rowe <[email protected]> Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:00:49 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.video.cinepaint.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Tom,

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At first glance, it looks like your mail server can't talk to 
sourceforge, perhaps something to do with your mail server's TLS 
configuration. It's not obvious to me from the error message.

In answer to your question, you're looking for image tracking. Most 
compositing packages have this, but CinePaint does not. Somebody 
contributed some code to do it in CinePaint, but it's still sitting 
there waiting for someone to integrate it.

CinePaint has no concept of video, only image sequences. You'd convert 
to image sequence using another tool, open the sequence in the CinePaint 
flipbook, reposition each frame using onion-skinning, save it, and 
export it back to video.

This would be an interesting example to show on the CinePaint website if 
you go ahead. Let me know.

Robin

-- 
Robin Rowe
CinePaint Project Leader
Beverly Hills, California
www.CinePaint.org

 > To:
 > <cinepaint-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
 >
 >
 > Greetings -- This is partly a moot question since I've done something 
similar "by hand" with the regular GIMP program, but I'm curious as to 
whether or not anyone has done this in an automated fashion, or even if 
cinepaint would be a "good platform" for doing this in the first place.
 >
 > Most modern cameras have an image stabilization "feature", and I'm 
even seeing it in post-production/NLE software such as premiere and 
pinnacle studio, but these seem to have limits -- I'm looking for 
stabilization in an extreme case :)
 >
 > Specifically, I've filmed some model and high-power rocket launches. 
  /most/ of the time I'm pretty good at it, but now and then the rocket 
is either /really/ fast, or "has an anomaly" during flight where it 
makes a sudden turn...  In cases like this, the primary subject of what 
I'm looking to "stabilize" has actually left the boundaries of the frame 
-- I don't know of any software that will correct for that :)
 >
 > (well, ok, perhaps cinepaint can, especially if I use something like 
blender to re-create a model of the rocket I was filming, but that's 
almost like cheating :) :) :) )
 >
 > What I've done in the past with the Gimp is to create an animated 
.gif in which I've meticulously repositioned each "frame" so that the 
rocket, or some significant part of it like a fin, is in the same 
position for each frame.  For the first 100 feet or so, the "background" 
will be the ground and some mountains in the distance, but after a short 
while the background will be sky and clouds, so I don't' need to worry 
all that much about edge clipping (I can fake the sky much easier than a 
mountain)
 >
 > For editing like this, can cinepaint work directly on an HD video 
stream, or do I have to export each frame individually and import them 
after they've been aligned?
 >


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