Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] accel/amdxdna: honour the SYNC_BO range

On 8/13/26 11:29, Taimuraz Kaitmazov wrote:
> Resending: my earlier reply does not appear on the lists, so I assume it
> did not reach you either.
>
> On 8/13/26 20:08, Lizhi Hou wrote:
>> The legacy NPU device is not cache coherent. And the next generation
>> (aie4) devices will be cache coherent.
> Confirming that with numbers, since I had measured it before your reply
> landed. On npu4, without a flush the CPU reads what the buffer held
> before the NPU wrote it, and the NPU reads what DRAM held before the CPU
> wrote it. Both reproduce on all 20 runs, and the stale read is most of
> the buffer, not a stray line: 3931 of 4096 values on average.
>
> Good to know aie4 is coherent -- that makes anything we do here a
> legacy-only concern.
>
> On 8/13/26 09:44, Christian König wrote:
>> An alternative would be to use DMA_BUF_IOCTL_SYNC from userspace
> Tried it against amdgpu, imported into amdxdna: stale on all 20 runs, no
> better than no sync at all. SYNC_BO on the same buffer is clean on all
> 20.
>
> Which leaves me no legal way to import a buffer the CPU also reads. Is
> there one I'm missing, or should a device like this just not import?
>
> On 8/12/26 17:45, Lizhi Hou wrote:
>> we need to unconditionally return -EOPNOTSUPP for imported BO
> is_import_bo() also covers ubuf and cbuf, so that stops maintaining our
> own userptr and carve-out BOs too. They take that arm today: on a 64 MiB
> userptr BO a 4 KiB sync and a full sync both cost 659 us, so the range
> is already being ignored there.

I am working on removing the dma-buf part for ubuf BO because that is 
also not a good usage of dma-buf. So the ubuf will be a object soon. 
cbuf is mainly for debug and is disabled by default.


Lizhi

>
> Keying on dma_buf->ops instead would confine it to foreign buffers.
> Either is fine by me, tell me which you want.
>
> Separately: XRT's buffer::sync() clflushes in userspace unless
> Debug.force_driver_sync is set, so the stack does this to foreign
> dma-bufs whatever the driver does. And when the ioctl is used, a
> FROM_DEVICE sync returns -EINVAL after the flush has already run, out of
> amdxdna_hwctx_sync_debug_bo() when the BO has no assigned hwctx. Happy
> to send that as its own patch; the helper has one caller, so returning 0
> there is the obvious shape unless you want it done elsewhere.
>
> v3 is sent: patches 1, 3 and 4 only. Patch 5 is dropped, and 2 with it
> since it only serves 5. I have not tested 5 on a matching tree and its
> numbers came from the foreign import case.
>
> Taimuraz
>
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