Re: Why GIT, guys? Really...

I have no problem with you choosing a SCM you like. You should, however, 
make the source available to people. Easily.

>From: "Jerome Glisse" <[email protected]>
>To: "First Last" <[email protected]>
>CC: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Why GIT, guys? Really...
>Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:40:57 +0100
>
>On 3/22/07, First Last <[email protected]> wrote:
>>That port isn't getting opened up. It should use port 80 like everything
>>else can.
>>
>>I read the subversion paragraph and it still makes no sense:
>>
>>Multiple backends are not a bad thing, regardless of you how you try an 
>>spin
>>it. The closest a concrete reason against subversion that ever comes up is
>>that he doesn't like the filesystem backend because he doesn't understand 
>>it
>>and then goes off on a rant about how that could be bad over NFS. (Noone
>>runs a subversion repository that fronts an NFS drive.)
>>
>>There's never any citation from Mozilla saying, you know SVN is really big
>>and that is bad. In fact, there are several citations out there you can 
>>find
>>that will explain why that was a good choice. Guess what - works over
>>firewalls is one of the things that they like. I never read about 
>>kernel.org
>>tipping over either from not using GIT. Strange actually that GIT isn't 
>>even
>>in the top 5 SCM systems used on planet earth... I mean its just so great
>>
>>If you really care that much about the number of files or size of them, 
>>you
>>could plugin another backend! Wait a second... this might be crazy but, if
>>you think the google backend is too slow you plugin a caching backend that
>>wraps googles! Now this gets really crazy, but if you still think thats 
>>not
>>reliable enough - you could plugin a backend that decorates another with
>>some checksums, writes to an additional location. But come on, its crazy,
>>this multiple backend stuff ... I mean, what is the world coming to. What 
>>if
>>someone wrote an interface that would provide some abstraction over 
>>multiple
>>kinds of graphics hardware backends... why, that's just nuts! Madness I 
>>tell
>>you!
>>
>>Ultimately, Keith just picked something he liked and didn't really 
>>consider
>>things like usability. He just decided he liked GIT.
>
>I don't have time to argue on all this, i am using cvs, svn and git on
>daily basis and i loose more time with svn and cvs than with git.
>Last point i think most of the main xorg, mesa, dri, ... dev like git a
>lot more than others scm, let them choose the scm they like
>so they can concentrate on actual work.
>
>Just hope you can find your way to get the source.
>
>best,
>Jerome Glisse
>
>>
>> >From: "Jerome Glisse" <[email protected]>
>> >To: "First Last" <[email protected]>
>> >CC: [email protected]
>> >Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Why GIT, guys? Really...
>> >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:57:13 +0100
>> >
>> >On 3/22/07, First Last <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>Well, I have no problems with CVS or SVN and I can do nothing about my
>> >>firewall.
>> >>How can I get the source? There are no tar balls any more. It just 
>>seems
>> >>insane that I can get every other source on the planet, X's, Gnomes's, 
>>all
>> >>of the base libraries, etc - but not Mesa.
>> >
>> >git clone http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm
>> >Should work even behind a firewall. Btw git use port 9418
>> >you may want to ask to your admin to allow that one.
>> >
>> >>(BTW, in keiths posts he never makes on concrete argument against using
>> >>something sane like SVN. He mentions a lot of problems w/ CVS solved by
>> >>SVN
>> >>and later just says, its apparent that SVN isn't the answer for me ...
>> >>which
>> >>would be WHY?)
>> >
>> >You apparently missed the paragraph on subversion (which is svn).
>> >
>> >best,
>> >Jerome Glisse
>> >
>> >> >From: "Jerome Glisse" <[email protected]>
>> >> >To: "First Last" <[email protected]>
>> >> >CC: [email protected]
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Dri-users] Why GIT, guys? Really...
>> >> >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:37:37 +0100
>> >> >
>> >> >On 3/22/07, First Last <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>Can anyone tell me how I'm supposed to get the source which is now
>> >>behind
>> >> >>GIT?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>$ git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm
>> >> >>defaulting to local storage area
>> >> >>warning: templates not found /home/dag/share/git-core/templates/
>> >> >>fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I guess someone decided the standard CVS & SVN was too well 
>>know/tested
>> >>so
>> >> >>they chose GIT
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I believe you are behind some strange firewall or that you got
>> >> >a too old git. The same command works perfectly for me on
>> >> >several computers.
>> >> >
>> >> >Btw, i think git is among best free code repository system out there.
>> >> >Keith did give a good overview why :
>> >> >http://keithp.com/blog/Repository_Formats_Matter.html
>> >> >http://keithp.com/blog/Tyrannical_SCM_selection.html
>> >> >
>> >> >best,
>> >> >Jerome Glisse
>> >>
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