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Nathaniel Smith <[email protected]> Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:46:07 +0000
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<html><head><title>IRC Meeting Log on #fresco (Tue Jan 20 00:01:24 2004)</title><body bgcolor="white"><h2>#fresco (Tue Jan 20 00:01:24 2004)</h2><table><tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><font color="red" size="-1">  #fresco          33     The fresco (formerly Berlin) windowing system. || IRC meeting: 2004-01-19 at 23:00UTC - njs at least would appreciate it if people could read his messages to the list beforehand || http://www.jacksonh.net/jackson/images/godkills_bugs.jpg </font></td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>starseeker: that was a pretty abstract one. I was more thinking of a concrete list: 'location transparency', 'object model', 'imaging model', etc.</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger:</font></td><td>njs: Good.</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">mourad:</font></td><td>(Im still catching up with ReFresco01 - very interesting)</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>nicholas: do you have any suggestions ? Want to coordinate the meeting ?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>nicholas: (you called for the meeting first :-)</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">nicholas:</font></td><td>stefans: well, I suppose I want to know whether a) are we still supposed to be a replacement for X?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger:</font></td><td>stefan: Shall we use the list on http://www2.fresco.org/introduction.html as a guideline?</td></tr>
<tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><font color="red" size="-1">  rapha_ ([email protected]) has joined channel #Fresco </font></td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">njs:</font></td><td>Well, you know what the biggest topic I want to talk about is :-)</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">nicholas:</font></td><td>I want some very broad direction of what are and what aren't our goals!</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>nicholas: I believe yes, though we obviously ought to define what that actually means</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">nicholas:</font></td><td>X offers a lot. Surely we aren't about display drivers.</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">njs:</font></td><td>nicholas: not if we can help it ;-)</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>nicholas: oh. Well, we want to offer something equivalent in terms of usability. How we achieve this, i.e. whether we delegate to other tools is a different matter (even though very important to discuss)</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">starseeker:</font></td><td>Do we take up the Corba thing?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">nicholas:</font></td><td>I wasn't specific enough. Are we a project working to produce an X replacement, or are we working to provide a research vehicle for future 3D GUI work?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">ShelterIt:</font></td><td>Yeah, let us jump into the deep end. CORBA is the one of the most importance right now.</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>nicholas: ah, that's already much more difficult :-)</td></tr>
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<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger_:</font></td><td>Did I miss something?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">njs:</font></td><td>hunger_: I'll pm</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>hunger_: we just decided to keep using CORBA</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger_:</font></td><td>Last thing I heared was that stefan said he can't tell...</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">njs:</font></td><td>hunger_: we just decided to throw out CORBA entirely</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">njs:</font></td><td>stefans: hey!  don't lie to the man!  that's not nice!</td></tr>
<tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><font color="red" size="-1">  Signoff: BenB (No route to host) </font></td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>who, me ?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">rohara:</font></td><td>we just decided to cut CORBA in half and find out the real mother.</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">oxygene:</font></td><td>heh</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">mourad:</font></td><td>You think development will be easier if we throw out corba, btw?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger_:</font></td><td>So we will discuss on the list?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>who did log ? Who could beautify it and put it to the other logs ? Who could write the minutes ?</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger_:</font></td><td>stefan: I'll write up something to the list tomorrow.</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">mourad:</font></td><td>no log here</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>hunger_: well, I hope it will go well. Discussions as broad as that tend to get out of focus via email.</td></tr>
<tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><font color="red" size="-1">  njs has xchat logs, if anyone wants them, but can probably put his limited time to better use on things besides writing up minutes </font></td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">stefans:</font></td><td>hunger_: in the worst case we have to come back here :-)</td></tr>
<tr><td align="right" valign="top"><font color="darkblue">hunger_:</font></td><td>stefan: OK, so we will try via mail.</td></tr>
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