Re: [Gimp-developer] New asset / extension manager

Jehan Pagès via gimp-developer-list <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.video.gimp.devel
Message-ID <CAFgjPJ_OeCTUORMLBm2PdDBL5H7Wba9JoeG3Ve5m1AhvA3dPeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi!

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:16 PM Michal Vašut <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey dude, calm down. Where have I written about "throwing your family,
> friends and life under the bus" or "black magic instant coding" ? Why are
> you angry (offended)?
>

I was clearly annoyed, if not indeed a bit offended by the answer (what and
how you said it was not very pleasant, if you read it with a neutral mind,
you should see it), though I was still calm and thought I stayed diplomatic
in my answer. Sorry if this part didn't get through, always hard by writing.

So yeah, no problem, don't worry. I am not angry or anything here. :-)


> Of course I don't know what you're doing. (only what you expose on Gitlab
> or blog)
>
> By priority I meant that Gimp team is pushing new features (that don't
> look like prerequisites for that manager) and that one that I'm looking for
> the most looks freezed (at least from outside). So I assume it's only your
> priority (not priority of the whole team).
>

Yeah we have some team roadmap of things we generically think should go in
this or that version. And there are global dev efforts in these direction
(like GTK+3, non-destructive editing and such). But mostly development is
driven by individual priorities, objectives or even sometimes just "where
they have most fun", on a finer level.

In that case I understand that creating something new (besides bugfixing,
> infrastructure maintenance,...) takes some time. I'm developer myself,
> trust me, I know well how it works.
>
> ✌
>

🕊☮ ;-)

Jehan

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> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 11:01 Jehan Pagès <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:10 AM Michal Vašut <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so it's not priority...
>>>
>>
>> I re-read my email. Nowhere do I say such thing. I consider this project
>> to be one of my main priorities (I'd say it's easy in the top 10 of the
>> GIMP-related things I want to see happening as soon as possible). Hence I
>> talk about it in posts, I started implementing it and so on. We have been
>> discussing this stuff for years and years. Priority does not mean "black
>> magic instant coding".
>> Not giving deadlines does not mean not priority either.
>>
>> Unless by priority you mean throwing my family, friends and life under
>> the bus to get it done yesterday, because yeah I don't have any of these
>> and won't ever have.
>>
>> It's a pity, I think it would be much more useful and beneficial for Gimp
>>> that other things you guys do. But, it's your choice how you spend your
>>> free time...
>>>
>>
>> How do you know what else I do? I don't think you can decide that this
>> project is more important than any other things I've been doing, sorry. :-)
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for answer a have a successful 2020.
>>>
>>
>> Same for you, have a happy 2020!
>>
>> Jehan
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 11:25 Jehan Pagès <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:37 PM Michal Vašut <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jehan, I know you've made some work on new extension manager -
>>>>> you've presented some GUI prototypes in the past and I also read about some
>>>>> huge backend refactoring, fixes and added support for JS and Lua for
>>>>> extension scripting. How far is it? Or better, how close to be released?
>>>>> It's without doubt huge task, and I understand how difficult is to work
>>>>> with such old codebase and don't mess up something else, so I don't want to
>>>>> put any pressure on you. Only thing I want to know is some rough estimate
>>>>> when it will be done.1st half of 2020? Second half? Next year?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, we don't do dates. We don't do rough estimates either.
>>>>
>>>> Things will be done when it's ready, that's it. I haven't taken the
>>>> time to work on this particular feature the last few months as I was doing
>>>> other stuff. I will continue implementing the feature. I can't tell when
>>>> this will happen and when this will be finished. I don't know either.
>>>>
>>>> Jehan
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>>
>

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