Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

solarflow99 via mc <[email protected]> Sun, 23 Oct 2022 12:37:32 -0700
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Thanks to everyone who has been trying to do something about this.  Its sad
the more ML's move to web forums, i've been on a few like that and its
never been the same, they lose a lot of good people.


On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:28 AM Ralf Mardorf via mc <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> it's worth to forward this [1] to other GNOME mailing lists.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
> [1]
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists
> hosted by Gnome.org
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:19:21 -0400
>
> On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:
> > What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is
> > unavailable?
>
> Just to reiterate and clarify, there is no "Mailman is unavailable"
> situation.  Mailman has versions that support Python2 and Python3, and
> Python2 is still supported in many places (but maybe not in Gnome land).
> Gnome appears to be blaming python2 and Mailman, but it really seems
> that Gnome just really wants to give up email support in favor of
> support via web browser (with future ads, click tracking, data
> harvesting, etc?).
>
> I've offered to host, for Gnome, for free, everything they currently
> have at mail.gnome.org (all they would have to do is switch DNS for the
> subdomain mail.gnome.org to my systems and provide me with a copy of
> their current Mailman2 lists and archives).  I've been doing Mailman2
> mailinglists for 2 decades, and have tons of experience in this area.
> Sadly, no one from Gnome has contacted me to take me up on this offer.
>
> -Jim P.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks to everyone who has been trying to do somethin=
g about this.=C2=A0 Its sad the more ML&#39;s move to web forums, i&#39;ve =
been on a few like that and its never been the same, they lose a lot of goo=
d people.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:28 AM Ralf Mardorf =
via mc &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
it&#39;s worth to forward this [1] to other GNOME mailing lists.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ralf<br>
<br>
[1]<br>
-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">evolution=
[email protected]</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists<br>
hosted by Gnome.org<br>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:19:21 -0400<br>
<br>
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote:<br>
&gt; What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is<br=
>
&gt; unavailable? <br>
<br>
Just to reiterate and clarify, there is no &quot;Mailman is unavailable&quo=
t;<br>
situation.=C2=A0 Mailman has versions that support Python2 and Python3, and=
<br>
Python2 is still supported in many places (but maybe not in Gnome land).<br=
>
Gnome appears to be blaming python2 and Mailman, but it really seems<br>
that Gnome just really wants to give up email support in favor of<br>
support via web browser (with future ads, click tracking, data<br>
harvesting, etc?).<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve offered to host, for Gnome, for free, everything they currently<br=
>
have at <a href=3D"http://mail.gnome.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">mail.gnome.org</a> (all they would have to do is switch DNS for the<br>
subdomain <a href=3D"http://mail.gnome.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">mail.gnome.org</a> to my systems and provide me with a copy of<br>
their current Mailman2 lists and archives).=C2=A0 I&#39;ve been doing Mailm=
an2<br>
mailinglists for 2 decades, and have tons of experience in this area. <br>
Sadly, no one from Gnome has contacted me to take me up on this offer.<br>
<br>
-Jim P.<br>
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