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[04:01] <ds-work> dude, we're down to 143 bugs
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[06:10] <harshy> hmmm
[06:10] <harshy> is cvs having sync issues?
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[07:29] <steve_b> ds-work: yorp?
[07:36] <ds> zum?
[07:37] <ds> bah norfil gazork
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[09:34] <mathrick> morning
[09:34] <Company> do we have a common idea how we mention contributors in the changelog?
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[10:33] <dolphy> morning
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[11:01] <mathrick> dolphy: gst-player does not work here, either doesn't play file or crashes
[11:01] <mathrick> dolphy: checkout from yesterday's evening
[11:01] <dolphy> mathrick: any clue what's going wrong ?
[11:01] <dolphy> mathrick: some warning, some bt ?
[11:02] <mathrick> dolphy: not really, no warnings, I can try bt
[11:02] <mathrick> dolphy: but it's not maintainer build, so bt will probably be useless
[11:02] <dolphy> mathrick: well i m currently rebuilding HEAD
[11:03] <dolphy> mathrick: so i won't be able to check before some hours..
[11:07] <mathrick> wow, now it suddenly began to spew really interesting warnings
[11:07] <mathrick> ERROR        asfdemux(19925) gstasfdemux.c(968):gst_asf_demux_get_stream: <asfdemux0> Segment found for undefined stream: (57)
[11:07] <mathrick> ERROR        asfdemux(19925) gstasfdemux.c(968):gst_asf_demux_get_stream: <asfdemux0> Segment found for undefined stream: (34)
[11:07] <mathrick> it's mpge btw ;)
[11:08] <mathrick> s/mpge/mpeg/
[11:10] <mathrick> hmm, looks like gst-launch doesn't work either
[11:11] <thomasvs> try another file ?
[11:12] <mathrick> thomasvs: that was another one ;)
[11:13] <mathrick> mathrick@megumi:~/Downloads/Anime$ gst-typefind-0.7 Tokyo\ Breakfast.mpeg
[11:13] <mathrick> Tokyo Breakfast.mpeg - video/x-ms-asf
[11:15] <mathrick> hmm, other mpegs play fine, at least in gst-launch
[11:15] <dolphy> try an avi
[11:16] <thomasvs> mathrick: an mpeg typefoudn as an asf is probably not an mpeg
[11:17] <mathrick> mathrick@megumi:~/Downloads/Anime$ file Tokyo\ Breakfast.mpeg
[11:17] <mathrick> Tokyo Breakfast.mpeg: Microsoft ASF
[11:17] <mathrick> hmm, probably not :)
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[11:23] <mathrick> k, for avis encoded in xvid, result is nothing displayed and 100% CPU, while divx works fine in gst-launch
[11:25] <mathrick> btw, real mpegs that play fine with gst-launch, but gst-player prints ** (gst-player:20008): WARNING **: couldn't set the right number of channels, enjoy the speed difference
[11:25] <mathrick> and then I have nice slide-show
[11:25] <dolphy> can you please try to play matrix.avi 
[11:25] <mathrick> dolphy: k, but first I need to download it
[11:26] <mathrick> what is URL for test files?
[11:31] <mathrick> thomasvs: is gst-foo-0.7 --help supposed to always be accurate wrt available options? or should I be looking @ sources?
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[11:31] <mathrick> yo teuf
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[11:32] <dolphy> mathrick: http://freedesktop.org/~gstreamer/media/large/matrix.avi
[11:36] <thomasvs> mathrick: yeah, of course it should be correct
[11:36] <thomasvs> mathrick: if it's not it's a bug
[11:36] <mathrick> thomasvs: I mean, is it technically possible for --help to be incorrect, it uses popt, right?
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[11:38] <KoRnouille> zeetix ?
[11:38] <KoRnouille> is that his name again ?
[11:38] <KoRnouille> thomasvs ?
[11:38] <KoRnouille> for the video wall stuff
[11:38] <mathrick> KoRnouille: Zeenix
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[11:39] <KoRnouille> thomasvs  ok
[11:40] <KoRnouille> thomasvs: when did you see him lately ?
[11:41] <mathrick> KoRnouille: IIRC, he was here yesterday
[11:41] <thomasvs> mathrick: it is possible for any --help to be incorrect :)
[11:41] <thomasvs> mathrick: but in general, it should be correct because of using popt
[11:41] <KoRnouille> mathrick: ok, thanks
[11:41] <thomasvs> KoRnouille: yeah, remember he is a pakistani, so he has different hours
[11:41] <mathrick> thomasvs: i thought popt taken care of keeping it up-to-date?
[11:41] <KoRnouille> right...
[11:43] <thomasvs> mathrick: yep
[11:43] <thomasvs> mathrick: but that doesn't mean there can't be mistakes
[11:46] <mathrick> thomasvs: ok, but if they are there, I won't catch them w/o careful code examination anyway
[11:47] <thomasvs> mathrick: I'm really not following - what exactly are you trying to do ?
[11:50] <mathrick> thomasvs: manpages thing, I have finally got to work on them
[11:51] <thomasvs> yep, but WHAT is it that you're trying to do that makes you ask all these questions ?
[11:53] <mathrick> thomasvs: I'm making sure all options listed there are valid, and therefore I need to have authoritative info available ones, that's why I was wondering if --help is (supposed to  be) alway correct
[11:53] <mathrick> s/info/info on/
[11:54] <thomasvs> ok, so
[11:54] <thomasvs> a) --help is supposed to be correct, so work from that
[11:54] <thomasvs> b) test each of the options to see if they do what they say they do
[11:54] <mathrick> k
[12:00] <mathrick> dolphy: while playing matrix.avi
[12:00] <mathrick> error while decoding block: 8 x 24 (1)
[12:00] <mathrick> Error at MB: 992
[12:00] <mathrick> concealing errors
[12:00] <mathrick> ignoring overflow at 28 5
[12:00] <mathrick> ac-tex damaged at 15 23
[12:00] <mathrick> dolphy: but otherwise, it plays ok in gst-player
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[12:02] <ninja> I'm building gstreamer from CVS. Why do client applications want to find gstreamer-libs-0.7.pc and where can I get it?
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[12:03] <jdahlin> ninja, set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to $prefix/lib/pkgconfig or $builddir/pkgconfig for a non-installable build
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[12:05] <ninja> but I can't see gstreamer-libs-0.7.pc[.in] anywhere in CVS (or installed on my system)
[12:05] <thaytan> it's in gst-plugins
[12:06] <ninja> ahh, thanks
[12:06] <ninja> is that on gnome or freedesktop?
[12:06] <mathrick> dolphy: hmm, looks like after stopping playback it stalls, eating 100% CPU and spewing 
[12:06] <mathrick> (gst-player:20200): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstdata.c: line 188 (gst_data_ref): assertion `GST_DATA_REFCOUNT_VALUE(data) > 0' failed
[12:06] <mathrick> forever
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[12:06] <thaytan> ninja: freedesktop
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[12:09] <zaheerm> hiya
[12:09] <zaheerm> thomasvs:  u there?
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[12:19] <mathrick> dolphy: also, after seeking it loses sync for good
[12:25] <thomasvs> zaheerm: yep
[12:25] <thomasvs> ninja: same place you got gst
[12:27] <zaheerm> :)
[12:27] <zaheerm> thomasvs: we didnt finish our convo a few days back....
[12:27] <dolphy> mathrick: the errors of decoding are normal
[12:28] <dolphy> mathrick: what do you mean by stopping playback ?
[12:29] <zaheerm> thomasvs: I was saying that I was forced to stop stuff.....but I kept up to date reading the lists etc.  I still have software I have written that uses gstreamer every day
[12:29] <zaheerm> thomasvs: and now I am at a stage where I can again help out a bit...with the coding
[12:37] <thomasvs> zaheerm: ah, that would be nice
[12:37] <thomasvs> zaheerm: so what do you do for a job right now ?
[12:38] <zaheerm> i dont
[12:38] <zaheerm> i am doing a phd
[12:39] <zaheerm> hopefully only in the last 6 months or so
[12:39] <zaheerm> its coz of the phd i had to stop everything
[12:39] <zaheerm> university sent me a letter
[12:40] <zaheerm> saying either i stop working
[12:40] <zaheerm> or they will chuck me out
[12:40] <thomasvs> ah, right
[12:40] <thomasvs> heh :)
[12:40] <zaheerm> so after 2 weeks of deliberation
[12:40] <zaheerm> i decided to stay and do my phd
[12:41] <thomasvs> but, that doesn't exactly give you time for gst :)
[12:41] <zaheerm> it does kinda now
[12:41] <zaheerm> coz from the end of this month
[12:41] <zaheerm> my phd wont have much coding
[12:41] <zaheerm> and i cant live without coding...
[12:42] <zaheerm> recently ive been working on adding msn voicechat support to gaim
[12:43] <zaheerm> so yes a few hours a week i can spare
[12:44] <thomasvs> cool :)
[12:44] <thomasvs> well, we need to find you some work then to do :)
[12:44] <zaheerm> haha
[12:44] <zaheerm> i would like to add a macosx audio sink and src
[12:45] <thomasvs> ah, rock
[12:45] <thomasvs> that would be great
[12:45] <zaheerm> and an rtsp plugin (supporting at first mpeg4 audio, and later mpeg4 video and audio)
[12:46] <KoRnouille> sounds good !
[12:46] <KoRnouille> i need that for my projhects ;)
[12:46] <zaheerm> the rtsp plugin, i need for my projects too...have to use mpeg4ip at the moment....which means i cant do half the things i want it to like record to wav and mp3 at same time etc.
[12:47] <KoRnouille> i use mpeg4ip also as testing
[12:47] <KoRnouille> what project are you working on ?
[12:48] <zaheerm> well at the mosque, we broadcast live video and audio streams of the programs
[12:48] <ensonic> I've just updated from cvs and now its missing gstreamer/gst/elements/gstmultidisksource.c - has this been commited?
[12:48] <thomasvs> ensonic: where is it missing ?
[12:48] <KoRnouille> im working on this kind of applications also
[12:49] <KoRnouille> zaheerm: but I'm not a programmer... i don't have programming skillz... so im putting some glue between all the programs I need to have something working... 
[12:49] <zaheerm> for audio, we have a c program i wrote that uses icecastsend to a DarwinStreamingServer...but also lets us save to cd quality wav, and mp3 at a higher bitrate...and also allows us to stop and start any of the sub-pipelines
[12:49] <ensonic> when compiling in gstreamer/gst/elements it misses gstmultidisksource.c
[12:49] <zaheerm> uses gst for that
[12:49] <KoRnouille> i mostly work with video
[12:50] <zaheerm> for video
[12:50] <KoRnouille> in fact, i only do video
[12:50] <zaheerm> we use mpeg4ip, and quicktime broadcaster
[12:50] Action: ensonic is rebuiling makefiles
[12:50] <zaheerm> of course, it gives us no flexibility
[12:50] <KoRnouille> i need applications that runs on prompt... i don't use the x interface
[12:50] <KoRnouille> like mplayer
[12:51] <zaheerm> mpeg4ip can be run commandline only
[12:51] <KoRnouille> yeah, you need a config file for the server, right ?
[12:51] <zaheerm> yah, create the config file by using teh gui
[12:51] <KoRnouille> and run it from cmd line
[12:51] <KoRnouille> true
[12:51] <zaheerm> and create the sdp file that u need to put on the server
[12:51] <zaheerm> and then from then on, use the command line
[12:52] <KoRnouille> im not into that for now... i have used an old version of mpeg4ip a few months ago
[12:52] <KoRnouille> i don't know if it changed much
[12:52] <KoRnouille> but it was pretty good
[12:52] <thomasvs> ensonic: if you're running in maintainer mode, it should rebuild makefiles automatically no ?
[12:52] <zaheerm> but wouldnt it be much better if the actual mp4live broadcasting stuff could be done from gstreamer
[12:52] <KoRnouille> i don't use gstreamer yet unfortunatly
[12:53] <KoRnouille> im very interested into that video wall project
[12:53] <KoRnouille> actually, Im just about to buy 4 PCI graphic cards right now
[12:53] <KoRnouille> for testing this
[12:53] <zaheerm> it means, u can use any video input...not just a v4l capturecard
[12:54] <KoRnouille> mp4live ?
[12:54] <zaheerm> KoRnouille: at the mosque we have tested using a projector
[12:54] <KoRnouille> its that a module of mpeg4ip ?
[12:54] <zaheerm> mp4live is the mpeg4ip program that does broadcasting
[12:54] <KoRnouille> right
[12:54] <ensonic> thomasvs: yes, it should
[12:54] <KoRnouille> tested what using a projo ?
[12:55] <KoRnouille> do you have any idea what graphic card to use ?
[12:55] <KoRnouille> GeForce2 MX400
[12:55] <KoRnouille> they are probably pretty much all the same, right ?
[12:57] <thaytan> thomasvs: autopoint fails in gst-plugins tonight
[12:57] <thaytan> complains that ABOUT-NLS and m4/gettext.m4 have been locally modified
[12:59] <ensonic> thomasvs: a friends of mine just tried to build the head cvs on linux (suse 8.2/gcc 3.3) and got warnings in gstcaps.c about comparissions between signed and unsigned, due to -Werror the build stopped ;-)
[13:00] <ensonic> btw: same happens in someone build from cvs and needs to use the c based mutexes, this emits a warning, which stops the build due to -Werror
[13:00] <zaheerm> if u want video, u just need a graphics card capable of Xv...which the majority are capable of
[13:01] <KoRnouille> yeah, but I don't want video freezes... I want a video card that can be able to do marathon display
[13:01] <zaheerm> u wouldnt get video freezes with most cards
[13:02] <zaheerm> its best not to go nvidia, coz their drivers not being open source...means to debug an issue would be difficult
[13:03] <zaheerm> matrox g400s are extremely good for video
[13:03] <thomasvs> thaytan: hm - easiest is to remove the files I think
[13:03] <thomasvs> thaytan: I updated to 0.11.5 of gettext, which is why you get that
[13:03] <zaheerm> i think thomas would agree, having used it in davedina
[13:03] <thaytan> thomasvs: I changed autogen to pass --force instead
[13:04] <thaytan> also, autogen seems to have autopoint running twice, which doesn't seem right
[13:05] <thaytan> (autogen.sh in gst-plugins, that is)
[13:05] <thomasvs> thaytan: where does it run twice ? it does patching, but only runs once, no ?
[13:05] Action: thomasvs checks
[13:05] <thomasvs> woah
[13:05] Action: thomasvs wonders how that happened
[13:06] <KoRnouille> what about ATI ?
[13:06] <KoRnouille> cause I'm looking on a web site.
[13:06] <KoRnouille> most cards are geforce cards
[13:06] <zaheerm> kornouille: i have an ati radeon inside my ibook, seems to be fine...but having not used any others
[13:06] <KoRnouille> and Radeons
[13:06] <zaheerm> cant comment
[13:07] <zaheerm> any other radeon models that is
[13:07] <KoRnouille> because they don't sell matrox there
[13:07] <thomasvs> thaytan: removed
[13:07] <thaytan> my radeon rocks out
[13:07] <KoRnouille> well, I need a PCI
[13:07] <KoRnouille> not AGP$
[13:07] <thomasvs> thaytan: I guess we should prefer to use --force then ?
[13:08] <thaytan> I think so, unless you can think of a reason not to
[13:08] <thomasvs> well, overwriting local mods, but yeah, that's a maintainer issue, or a Thomas issue :)
[13:09] <zaheerm> kornouille: understood..
[13:09] <ensonic> irks, gstreamer/gst/parse is using libxml2 but not adding the required `xml2-config --cflags`
[13:10] <KoRnouille> i think i'll go for a PNY Carte Graphique - GeForce2 MX400 PCI
[13:10] <KoRnouille> 49.90 €
[13:13] <ensonic> same in gstreamer/gst/registries 
[13:13] <teuf> ensonic: I'd expect gstreamer to use pkg-config to get libxml2 flags, not xml2-config
[13:15] <ensonic> teuf: thats true, but the point is the two packages do include from libxml2 but not check where it has been installed to
[13:15] <KoRnouille> thomasvs: im realizing that the link you gave me yesterday to get the de video wall stuff it not the technical. I need that link where it show how to setup the servers
[13:17] <KoRnouille> thomasvs: ok I think I have it... it's in the link somewhere
[13:18] <teuf> ensonic: as far as I can tell gstreamer/gst/parse should get the appropriate flags for libxml
[13:19] <thomasvs> ensonic: can you paste the actual output so we really see what's going on ?
[13:21] <teuf> thomasvs: configure.ac defines LIBXML2_REQ for the minimum libxml2 version required, but this variable seems to be overridden in GST_LIBXML2_CHECK, should I file a bug about that ? (maybe I'm just confused about how autofoo works ;)
[13:22] <ensonic> thomasvs: irc runs on one computer the buil on the other, the problem is that gstreamer check for libxml2, but the above two packages do not have the XML_LIBS/CFLAGS, in GST_LIBS/CFLAGS, i'll try to rebuild from start :-(
[13:24] <ensonic> XML_CFLAGS and XML_LIBS are empty
[13:27] <thomasvs> teuf: let me check
[13:27] Action: ensonic runs ./config.status --recheck
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[13:31] <ensonic> thomasvs: arg !$#$#%, found it, the configure.ac from cvs disables registry load/save by default, thus skipping the libxml2 check, the code does not yet know about this
[13:37] <thomasvs> where does it disable registry load/save by default ?
[13:37] <thomasvs> that's a bug
[13:39] <ensonic> thomasvs: indeed as --disable-loadsave=no or --enable-loadsave does not work
[13:39] <thomasvs> you're right, crap
[13:44] Action: thomasvs kicks benj
[13:44] <ensonic> thomasvs: should I try to fix it, can you do it an d commit it?
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[13:44] <thomasvs> looking at it right now
[14:06] <ensonic> thomasvs: I am away for an hour, I hope you can fix it until then ;-)
[14:06] Action: ensonic is away: back in 1 hour
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[14:15] <mathrick> bbl
[14:15] Nick change: mathrick -> mathrick|away
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[14:28] <ninja> where does one find alsasink?
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[14:50] Action: ensonic is back (gone 00:44:18)
[14:51] <ensonic> thomasvs: i am back, any success?
[14:52] <thomasvs> ensonic: just went for lunch, just getting back on it
[14:52] <thomasvs> ninja: in gst-plugins
[14:52] <ninja> thomasvs: cheers
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[15:00] <LeRoutier> hello
[15:00] <LeRoutier> got a new bug for you guys
[15:00] <LeRoutier> ../../gst/gstconfig.h:62:28: libxml/parser.h: No such file or directory
[15:00] <LeRoutier> pkg-config --cflags libxml-2.0
[15:00] <LeRoutier> -I/usr/include/libxml2
[15:01] <teuf> LeRoutier: known issue, thomasvs is working on it ;)
[15:01] <LeRoutier> ok
[15:01] <LeRoutier> so, i'll wait
[15:03] <ensonic> LeRoutier: i've been quicker :-(
[15:03] <LeRoutier> seems it is a new dependency, i don't remember seeing anything about libxml in configure.ac
[15:04] <thomasvs> it's not new
[15:04] <thomasvs> just some cockup
[15:04] <thomasvs> give me a few fifteenminutes :)
[15:06] <LeRoutier> no prob, better take your time to fix it for good than make a kick dirty hack
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[16:04] <zaheerm> ok printed out the macosx audio HAL developer docs
[16:04] <zaheerm> at some point will write the osxsrc, sink and mixer stuff
[16:10] <thomasvs> go zaheerm !
[16:12] <zaheerm> which one should i use as a base?
[16:12] <zaheerm> oss or alsa?
[16:12] <zaheerm> plugin i mean...which one is neater code?
[16:13] Action: ensonic is writing docu for gst/manual/clock
[16:14] <zaheerm> omg didnt realise ud released 0.6.5 today...channel still says 0.6.4
[16:15] <thomasvs> no,, channel says 0.7.4 :)
[16:15] <thomasvs> 0.6.5 is just a service release
[16:16] <thomasvs> ensonic: might not be a good idea right now, the clock stuff is still under discussion
[16:16] <zaheerm> sorry
[16:16] <zaheerm> i cant read!
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[16:17] <thomasvs> doesn't matter :)
[16:17] <thomasvs> as long as you can write :)
[16:17] <ensonic> thomasvs: just an introduction, IMHO better than an empty page - I'll add a not that this is under construction (if thats ok)
[16:17] <thomasvs> sure
[16:18] <thomasvs> just don't want you to do loads of work then be disappointed because we suck :)
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[16:19] <LeRoutier> hello harshy, foser
[16:20] <foser> i call it 'to the point'
[16:20] <ensonic> thomasvs: just want to do something useful, until you have the configure-stuff solved and we need the clock stuff for our app
[16:23] <ensonic> thomasvs: as I have no CVS write acces, should I mail such docu stuff to you, or submit via bugzilla (and documentation)
[16:23] <thomasvs> ensonic: bugzilla is best I think
[16:23] <ensonic> I file under bug=133057
[16:25] <LeRoutier> dolphy, t'es dans le coin ?
[16:25] <dolphy> LeRoutier: oui je suis puni
[16:27] <ensonic> thomasvs: its in bugzilla now (i've posted the whole xml file, was nearly empty before anyway)
[16:31] Action: thomasvs grows dislike for m4
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[16:41] Action: ensonic knows how thomasvs feels (I've not even found from whete the damn option comes)
[16:42] <thomasvs> I have fixed everything except for the output, and I can't get a var to expand properly
[16:42] <thomasvs> m4 really is arcane
[16:43] <ensonic> thomasvs: in which file are you working?
[16:43] <thomasvs> common/m4/gst-feature.m4
[16:44] <ensonic> thomasvs: line?
[16:46] <thomasvs> somewhere at the bottom, last macro
[16:50] Action: ensonic thought it configure.in files where cryptic
[16:50] <ensonic> it=his
[16:55] <ensonic> thomasvs: why are you not using AC_DEFINE(), but GST_DISABLE_xxx_DEFINE ?
[16:55] <thomasvs> ensonic: I was wondering that too
[16:55] <thomasvs> I'll ask about that later on
[16:56] <harshy> hmmm
[16:56] <harshy> seems like gst is lossing sync
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[17:07] <ensonic> thomasvs: to me it looks like the GST_SUBSYSTEM_DISABLE in configure.ac (line:406) comes after the line where the GST_DISABLE_LOADSAVE is used (line:211)
[17:08] <thomasvs> ensonic: there are various things, and all of them are fixed, except for some m4 output stuff I'm trying to figure out, so hang on
[17:25] Action: thomasvs has it figured out now
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[17:32] <thomasvs> ensonic: can you update and try again ?
[17:33] <ensonic> thomasvs: yes, I do
[17:34] <LeRoutier> hum, i now see that it is autopoint that creates mkinstalldirs, not automake nor libtool
[17:35] <LeRoutier> gst-editor & player autogen.sh do not call autopoint at all. that may be why they lack mkinstalldirs when using automake 1.8.2
[17:35] <thomasvs> LeRoutier: no, I think autoconf does that, try switching the two around
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[17:36] <ensonic> thomasvs: it is now correctly detecting libxml2 (no extra option given), many thanks
[17:37] <LeRoutier> k, i'll try tweaking their autogen to see what the problem is
[17:37] <thomasvs> ensonic: you're welcome
[17:37] <thomasvs> LeRoutier: normally, mkinstalldirs is made by every auto* tool that needs it, but this is a bug in automake I think that it doesn't copy it itself
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[17:39] <LeRoutier> works with automake 1.7.9 but not with automake 1.8.2, so yes, could b
[17:39] <LeRoutier> +e
[17:50] Action: thomasvs commits a bunch more fixes
[17:52] Action: ensonic hopes that the one about gst/elements/gstmultidisksrc.c is among them
[17:53] <thomasvs> ensonic: I'm not seeing that - check Makefile.am, it doesn't reference it
[17:53] <thomasvs> ensonic: ie, I'm pretty sure you have a stale Makefile
[17:53] <thomasvs> ensonic: gstmultidisksrc was renamed to gstmultifilesrc
[17:53] <ensonic> thomasvs: yup, its that, just grep and the reference is not in makefile.am
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[17:54] <thomasvs> ensonic: so, just reautogen if you're lazy, or get htem updated manually if you're not :)
[17:56] <ensonic> thomasvs: automake failed to make a link to automake-1.8 (or the link vanished), now it remakes the makefiles
[18:00] <zaheerm> thomasvs: what is that README about in the sys/oss dir of gst-plugins ??
[18:00] Nick change: harshy -> harshyWork
[18:02] <thomasvs> ensonic: are you using jhbuild to build gstreamer ?
[18:03] <thomasvs> zaheerm: heh, good question :) never seen that before :)
[18:03] <ensonic> thomasvs: am I what? (so I guess the answer is no)
[18:03] <zaheerm> thomasvs: it doesnt describe whats in the code for sure!
[18:03] <LeRoutier> ensonic, jhbuild is a CVS build script for gnome unstable
[18:04] <shawarma> Does anyone have mathrick's e-mail address?
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[18:25] <xirus> @ a developer/site admin: the link(s) to the language bindings is down http://www.freedesktop.org/~gstreamer/bindings
[18:26] <ensonic> can anyone tells me which developer does most of the clock stuff, so that I can get in touch with
[18:29] <thomasvs> ensonic: at this point, benjamin, but the stuff has been changed and it's really unclear
[18:29] <thomasvs> ensonic: and you should get in touch on the mailing list, so people can follow
[18:30] <zaheerm> ok gotta go
[18:31] <zaheerm> see u all later
[18:31] <zaheerm> bye
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[18:32] <ensonic> thomasvs: thanks, I will use the mailing list, apart is there someone like a bugzilla master - I got some reports with patches in there, which I would like to see applied or rejected
[18:39] <thomasvs> ensonic: everyone here is
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[18:39] <thomasvs> if you post links here to some you want reviewd, I can do some
[18:40] <LeRoutier> http://www.linuxkiddie.com/windows_2000_source_code.zip :)
[18:41] <LeRoutier> argh, they just removed it
[18:43] <ensonic> 133316 (easy fix for compile error), 133663 (small enhancement), 133528 (fix for logic error), 133233 (dirty fix for compile problem)
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[18:48] <LeRoutier> bye guys
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[18:49] <ensonic> thomasvs: it is now building the docs!
[18:52] <thomasvs> ensonic: I guess that's good news :)
[18:55] <ensonic> thomasvs: in 30 minutes my girl friend comes fetching me home, so i'll have a quick look an fix clocks and dparams ;-)
[18:55] <ensonic> then we are set
[19:02] <ensonic> thomasvs: I've submitted another patch, it adds all documented entries of the control library to the documentation (134227)
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[19:04] <jdahlin> åh nej, inte en norrman
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[19:04] <Uraeus> hej hej
[19:04] <Uraeus> hi Zeenix
[19:04] <Zeenix> hi guys
[19:04] <jdahlin> evening Uraeus
[19:04] <Zeenix> KoRnouille: you there?
[19:05] <Zeenix> KoRnouille: just openned your email
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[19:08] <thomasvs> ensonic: what's your full name ?
[19:08] <ensonic> thomasvs: Stefan Kost
[19:09] <ensonic> thomasvs: just found docs/random/ and read about the ideas regarding to clock there ...
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[19:19] <thomasvs> ensonic: three of the bugs commited, thanks
[19:20] <ensonic> thomasvs: anything interesting found about my full name ;-)
[19:21] <thomasvs> ensonic: what do you mean ?
[19:23] <Uraeus> thomasvs: he probably just assumed you googled him after asking for his name :)
[19:24] <thomasvs> ah, no, I needed it for the changelog commits
[19:24] <thomasvs> time to go home
[19:25] <ensonic> see you tomorrow
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[19:38] <Uraeus> jdahlin: remember to add a picture to the gstreamer community on orkut
[19:38] <jdahlin> Uraeus: do you have a link to one?
[19:39] <Uraeus> jdahlin: use the webpage logo?
[19:39] <jdahlin> Uraeus: ok
[19:39] <jdahlin> Uraeus: are you going to invite all developers/
[19:39] <jdahlin> ?
[19:40] <Uraeus> jdahlin: already invited a big bunch
[19:47] <ensonic> ciao, see you tomorrow
[19:48] <jdahlin> Uraeus: bummer, it's split in half
[19:56] <Uraeus> jdahlin: ok, I find a working one
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[20:18] <Zeenix> Uraeus: i did'nt get your email
[20:19] <Uraeus> Zeenix: prolly takes a little time
[20:22] <ds-work> moo
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[20:25] <jdahlin> Uraeus: got an image?
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[20:28] <Uraeus> jdahlin: haven't found one yet, think I need to ask thomasvs where the images stored on sf ended up :)
[20:28] <Uraeus> hi ds-work and dolphy
[20:31] <dolphy> yop
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[20:37] <lude> Anyone around to help me diagnose an (apparent) gst-register problem ?
[20:38] <Uraeus> lude: depends on how it looks :)
[20:38] <lude> Well, it doesn't see any of the plugins
[20:38] <lude> gstreamer works fine if i copy the registry from another PC
[20:38] <lude> but if i run gst-register-0.6 on here, it comes up with no plugins
[20:39] <thomasvs> lude: how did you install gst on either machines ?
[20:39] <lude> the one machine i keep using is a BSD machine, installed via ports
[20:39] <lude> this one is a gentoo box, i have to manually muck up the paths, but it works with the other registry
[20:40] <lude> the plugin list isn't the same though
[20:42] <lude> even if i manually specify the path, it doesn't see the plugins
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[20:42] <thomasvs> lude: ok, so then let's forget about the other box, since they're completely different
[20:42] <thomasvs> so you're on a gentoo box ?
[20:42] <lude> Yeah
[20:42] <thomasvs> what version of gst do you have installed ?
[20:42] <lude> 0.6.4
[20:43] <thomasvs> lude: and of gst-plugins ?
[20:43] <lude> same
[20:44] <dilinger> is there any sort of timeline for the 0.8 release?
[20:45] <Uraeus> dilinger: basically it is as many 0.7.x releases as we manage before we have to do 0.8 to fit in with the gnome 2.6 schedule
[20:45] <thomasvs> dilinger: tentatively beginning of march
[20:45] <thomasvs> say, 9-ish
[20:45] <dilinger> cool
[20:52] <lude> strace shows it seeing the files
[20:52] <lude> it just doesn't do anything with them
[20:56] <taaz> thomasvs: haveing fun with CVSROOT? ;)
[21:03] <lude> it doesn't want to generate a registry
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[21:06] <thomasvs> taaz: yeah
[21:06] <thomasvs> taaz: almost works
[21:06] <thomasvs> lude: ok, run with --gst-debug="*:5" and file a bug with that log attached (gzipped though)
[21:07] <thomasvs> later
[21:07] <lude> ok
[21:09] <lude> Error on option --gst-debug=*:5: unknown option.
[21:09] <lude> weird
[21:10] <thomasvs> lude: sorry - in your case --gst-debug-mask=-1
[21:10] <lude> heh, same as usual output
[21:10] <lude> except DEBUG(27232: 0)gstelementfactory.c(106): gst_element_factory_find: : no such elementfactory "queue"
[21:10] <lude> i see a few lines of those
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[21:49] <dolphy> thomasvs: this buildbot thing look nice
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[21:58] <ploum> Hi everybody..
[22:00] <thomasvs> dolphy: yep, it does
[22:00] <ploum> I've found alot of strange things with my sound installation.  I was thinking that it was Gstreamer, but I'm no more sure. It's perhaps ALSA.. Anybody know well Debian and ALSA here ?
[22:00] <thomasvs> dolphy: glad we went through with it
[22:00] <dolphy> thomasvs: fixing your commit
[22:00] <dolphy> thomasvs: buildbot shouts about your vbidec fix
[22:02] <dolphy> thomasvs: it's now rebuilding
[22:02] <thomasvs> ah, damnit.  that was my test :)
[22:02] <thomasvs> oh well
[22:03] <thomasvs> dolphy: it's not completely set up right though
[22:03] <thomasvs> dolphy: ie, we need to grep for what was changed and not rebuild everything
[22:03] <thomasvs> but that's for tomorrow, we stayed at work until 9 so I'm really tired now
[22:04] <dolphy> yeah
[22:05] <dolphy> currently it rebuilds the core even if no changes inside
[22:05] <dolphy> that's a waste of time
[22:06] <thomasvs> yep, but it's easy to change
[22:06] <thomasvs> anyway, it's a good start
[22:07] <taaz> is the output online somewhere?
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[22:10] <harshy> hmmm
[22:10] <harshy> is cvs head causing sync issues?
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[22:12] <taaz> heh, just looked at fluendo site.  "A slogan about streaming video" ;)  sounds like a release name
[22:12] <thomasvs> harshy: could be
[22:12] <thomasvs> dolphy: huh, how did that get back online ?
[22:12] <harshy> thomasvs: anyone else reported this?
[22:13] <thomasvs> harshy: not more or less than usual
[22:13] <thomasvs> harshy: but that doesn't help you much
[22:13] <harshy> no
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[22:21] <dolphy> thomasvs: what got online ?
[22:21] <dolphy> thomasvs: we should put a client on my home machine
[22:22] <dolphy> thomasvs: i already built core and plugins 2 times while johan's machine is still at it
[22:24] <thomasvs> dolphy: yep, when he's written the docs we're both going to set up some slaves
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[22:32] <dolphy> weee built successfull
[22:32] <bitpoet> i got my x11src kinda-sorta working
[22:33] <ds-work> bitpoet: btw, that would be cool for an xmag replacement
[22:33] <bitpoet> yeah, i can think of a bunch of things it could be useful for
[22:34] <bitpoet> how do you add a new plugin to gst-plugins/gst/?  it looks like there are some autogenerated files that i need to get into, which don't seem to be documented.
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[22:37] <dolphy> x11src ?
[22:37] <ds-work> bitpoet: add the Makefile to configure.ac, near the end
[22:37] <dolphy> what is that ?
[22:38] <ds-work> bitpoet: and presumably add a directory in sys/
[22:38] <ds-work> sys/x11src, say
[22:38] <bitpoet> dolphy: it's a video source i'm writing to generate video from your x11 display
[22:38] <ds-work> bitpoet: and change sys/Makefile.am accordingly
[22:38] <dolphy> bitpoet: that would go in gst-plugins/sys then
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[22:39] <ds-work> bitpoet: however, we're trying to get a handle on the number of directories we are using, so (dolphy approving) you should add the element to sys/ximagesink or so
[22:39] <ds-work> I'd prefer a sys/x11 directory, personally
[22:40] <bitpoet> well, i'll just pick one and see if i can get it working.  right now it's just a (very) modified videotestsrc, so either is better than that.
[22:40] <dolphy> we could have a sys/x11 directory with x[v]imagesink x[v]imagesrc
[22:40] <taaz> why not sys/xwindowsystem/ ;)
[22:40] <dolphy> bitpoet: well you probably better base your code on x[v]imagesink example
[22:41] <dolphy> bitpoet: big part would be similar
[22:42] <dolphy> thomasvs: fixed my bug :)
[22:42] <dolphy> thomasvs: no black rectangle anymore
[22:43] <taaz> is there going to be a auto-select warpper for x[v]imagesink sometime?  perhaps use xvideosink name?
[22:44] <bitpoet> i already have a prototype working, but i think i can get some useful things out of ximagesink.c
[22:45] <dolphy> taaz: well that's on my todo list :)
[22:48] <thomasvs> dolphy: rock !
[22:49] <thomasvs> dolphy: great news :)
[22:49] <dolphy> thomasvs: yeah sometimes the most simple bugs are the longuest to find
[22:49] <dolphy> thomasvs: but i m learning about gdk :)
[22:56] Action: dolphy is now doing some fixes in gst-player
[22:58] <taaz> if you want to fix the GstPlay python bindings too that would be nice ;)
[22:58] <taaz> they sort of work... but sort of don't
[22:59] <taaz> was getting stuck spitting out same timestamp for an ogg after ~9s.  repeatably.  so didn't think it was thread releated but could be
[23:00] <taaz> just testing with fakesink audio/viz output.  setting viz output to something like ximagesink caused it to go into thread-puke mode
[23:00] <taaz> ah, the joys of threads and bindings
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[23:45] <ibsteveog> ds-work: do you have an example working pipeline using rfbsrc?
[23:46] <ds-work> ibsteveog: rfbsrc ! ximagesink
[23:47] <Uraeus>  gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../gst-libs -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -pthread -I/usr/include/gstreamer-0.7 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -DGST_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -Wall -Werror -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -O2 -g -pipe -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 -MT libgstvbidec_la-vbiscreen.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libgstvbidec_la-vbiscreen.Tpo -c vbiscreen.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libgstvbidec_la-vbiscre
[23:47] <Uraeus> en.o
[23:47] <Uraeus> vbiscreen.c: In function `vbiscreen_set_current_cell':
[23:47] <Uraeus> vbiscreen.c:509: warning: implicit declaration of function `g_ascii_isprint'
[23:47] <Uraeus> make[2]: *** [libgstvbidec_la-vbiscreen.lo] Error 1
[23:47] <Uraeus> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cschalle/rpms/BUILD/gst-plugins-0.7.4.1/gst/vbidec'
[23:47] <ibsteveog> rfbsrc is still just hanging after a few read/writes 
[23:48] <ds-work> Uraeus: dude, you're so 5 minutes ago
[23:48] <Uraeus> oh :)
[23:48] <ds-work> ibsteveog: what are you using as a server?
[23:48] <ibsteveog> vncserver
[23:48] <ds-work> ibsteveog: try Xvncserver
[23:48] <ds-work> what port?
[23:48] <ds-work> default is 5901
[23:48] <ibsteveog> yes, 5901
[23:48] <ibsteveog> its connectiing
[23:49] <ibsteveog> i had to disable the RFB 003.003 assertion
[23:49] <ibsteveog> since my vnc apparently returns RFB 003.007
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[23:50] <ibsteveog> i'm referring to this line:   //g_assert (memcmp (buffer->data, "RFB 003.003\n", 12) == 0); 
[23:50] <ibsteveog> from rfbdecoder.c
[23:51] <ibsteveog> ds-work: if you want, i'll send you the last bit of output with --gst-enabled-debug=5
[23:53] <ds-work> ok
[23:53] <ds-work> attach it to a bug, please
[00:00] --- Fri Feb 13 2004
[00:00] <ibsteveog> wait, it just occurred to me - the vncserver has to ask for a password
[00:00] <ibsteveog> no doubt thats why rfbsrc is hanging on a read...
[00:01] <NFusi0n> clean room implementation of directx stuff in gstreamer - who else would bust a gut laughing if somebody tried/did it
[00:04] <ds-work> ibsteveog: mmm, probably
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[00:32] <mathrick> evening
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[00:41] <bilboed> hi all
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[00:42] <bilboed> I'm in desperate need of an autotools tutorial, anybody got a link lying around ?
[00:43] <mathrick> bilboed: google for autobook, it should be on RH site somewhere
[00:43] Action: mathrick needs to read it someday too
[00:44] <bilboed> it's mostly all the different versions that are driving me crazy, I'd like to understand it once and for all
[00:44] <bilboed> thx anyway :)
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[00:47] <mathrick> yo ain
[00:48] <mathrick> k, need to sleep some
[00:48] <mathrick> nite
[00:48] <iain> yo
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[00:56] <bilboed> hmm... anybody knows what the AS_VERSION token is used for in configure.ac files ?
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[01:14] <ibsteveog> ds-work: unfortunately my email is down, so i can't make a bug report on my rfb issues.  best as i can tell, in the decoder_wait_for_server_init state, the server returns 16 bytes instead of the 24 that you are wanting
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[02:35] <ds-work> bilboed: yes, it's used to set the VERSION variable
[02:35] <ds-work> and some others
[02:35] <ds-work> and to convfigure autoconf for that
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