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[06:29] <kidioi> !! hello I have problems compiling gst-plugins with alsa-1.0.2c
[06:30] <kidioi> I get error gstalsa.c
[06:30] <kidioi> can anyone help me?
[06:30] <kidioi> version of gst-plugins is 0.6.4
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[06:32] <kidioi> oops i got disconnected
[06:32] <kidioi> I will repeat the questions
[06:33] <kidioi> I got compilation error for gst-plugins-0.6.4 with alsa-1.0.2c
[06:33] <kidioi> The problem occured with gstalsa.c
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[07:00] <mathrick> mornin
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[08:57] <Company> geez
[08:58] <Company> somone killed our topic :o
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[09:27] <Company> xine is very hacky sometimes to get the job done
[09:27] <Company> unfortunately this is exactly where we have our problems...
[09:37] <thaytan> hi!
[09:37] <Company> bye :)
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[09:42] <matju> how do i display the data from an iSight camera? (1394)
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[09:48] <matju> INFO (15688: 0) [dv1394src2] can't get raw1394 handle
[09:48] <matju> any hint about how to troubleshoot this?
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[09:52] <thaytan> matju: got the 1394 kernel modules installed?
[09:52] <matju> yeah
[09:53] <matju> ieee1394 and ohci1394 ?
[09:54] <thaytan> raw1394 :)
[09:54] <thaytan> also, the /dev/raw1394 device needs to be accessible to your user acct
[09:56] <matju> if i plug something in a 1394 port, am i not supposed to see something special in /proc/bus/ieee1394/devices ?
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[09:57] <matju> ok, chmod 777 /dev/raw1394
[09:57] <bitpoet> kernel 2.6?
[09:58] <matju> INFO (15850: 0) [dv1394src2] there are no nodes on the 1394 bus
[09:58] <matju> uname -a
[09:58] <matju> Linux mondrian.artengine.ca 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk #1 Fri Mar 14 01:25:11 CET 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
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[09:59] <thaytan> matju: um, you might also need video1394, I can't remember
[09:59] <matju> (CET ? bogus timezone... heh)
[09:59] <thaytan> (module)
[10:00] <matju> i installed that too, but i think that an iSight is not DV while still being FW.
[10:00] <thaytan> it might be a DC  camera?
[10:00] <matju> however i still would like to see it appear somewhere in /proc or /dev .
[10:00] <matju> what's DC ?
[10:00] <thaytan> I don't know what an isight is :)
[10:00] <thaytan> DC1394 is a different video format for firewire webcammy things
[10:01] <matju> i have a /proc/bus/ieee1394/dv/host0/ , what is it ?
[10:01] <bitpoet> looks like dc: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/22939
[10:01] <thaytan> http://www.spinics.net/lists/vfl/msg07523.html
[10:02] <thaytan> we don't have a dc1394 element yet, although wayne piekarski expressed interest in making one
[10:02] <thaytan> you want to install 'coriander' for now
[10:03] Action: matju installs coriander
[10:04] <matju> checking for gnome-config... no
[10:04] <matju> !
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[10:11] <thaytan> sounds like it needs gnome1 devel stuff
[10:14] <matju> gnome-config is gnome1 only ?
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[10:35] <thaytan> matju: sorry, was making dinner
[10:35] <thaytan> yes, gnome-config has been replaced by pkgconfig 
[10:36] <thaytan> it's in the libgnome-dev package in debian
[10:38] <matju> sigh
[10:38] <matju> it's mandrake 9.1 on that box.
[10:39] <harobed> bitpoet, hi. You are gnonlin hacker ?
[10:42] <matju> thaytan: ok, looks like it might be significantly easier to just rip the important code out of coriander and making a PureData/GridFlow component out of it. That's what i wanted to do eventually anyway... but i wanted to make sure that i can really reach the cam...
[10:43] <thaytan> libdc1394 is the thing coriander uses
[10:45] <matju> is libdc1394 0.9.0 quite current?
[10:45] <matju> i mean current enough for iSight ?
[10:45] <bitpoet> harobed: no, i just happen to have firewire working, so i thought i'd try to help
[10:47] <thaytan> matju: no idea, I've never had a dc1394 camera to try
[10:47] <thaytan> otherwise I'd have written a gstreamer element for it :)
[10:47] <thaytan> does gridflow do video well?
[10:48] <bitpoet> send us each an isight and we'll have it in gstreamer in no time  :-)
[10:50] <matju> thaytan: i don't use gstreamer normally, i use gridflow; i saw a gstreamer plugin looking for "1394" stuff so i told myself it would be an easy way to pre-test the cam
[10:51] <matju> thaytan: it's gridflow's job to do video processing in interactive artistic installations. you bet it does video well.
[10:52] <thaytan> I've never come across it before
[10:52] <thaytan> it looks cool
[10:58] <matju> i used it in january to provide actor-controlled projections to a theatre play...
[10:59] <matju> else it's been used in art galleries, and student projects at Ottawa U
[11:01] <matju> in general, gridflow is not known; it's just in certain circles that it is... like PureData users. even then, it's a swiss-army chainsaw that normal users don't bother learning ;-)
[11:01] <alley_cat> hmm, was there some big change related to avi files recently?
[11:01] <alley_cat> i can't play any avi files anymore with gst-launch :/
[11:02] <thaytan> alley_cat: I don't know
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[12:12] <dolphy> morning
[12:12] <thaytan> yo
[12:28] <iain_> orning
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[12:45] <apoc> yo
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[13:11] <thomasvs> jdahlin: rh9-plug is still building core
[13:12] <jdahlin> thomasvs: working on it, should be fixed now
[13:12] <dolphy> thomasvs: alsasink is not sending an error when audio device busy
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[13:17] <dolphy> thomasvs: gstalsa.h:45
[13:18] <dolphy> thomasvs: the ERROR_CHECK macro is not sending gst_element_error
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[13:20] <thomasvs> dolphy: yeah, you should file a bug and tell benjamin, it looks like he uses those macros in various places
[13:20] <thomasvs> give him a day, if he doesn't change it we will
[13:21] <dolphy> thomasvs: i was more enclined to go help myself :)
[13:23] <thaytan> thomasvs: did you get my new key?
[13:27] <thomasvs> dolphy: heh, feel free :)
[13:27] <thomasvs> thaytan: yeah, sent it on, haven't gotten a reply yet
[13:29] <jdahlin> thomasvs: do you have yd2 or 3 installed?
[13:30] <thomasvs> jdahlin: 3
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[13:35] <ensonic> hi
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[16:05] <bilboed> hi all
[16:09] <bilboed> I'm working on making gnonlin work with the cvs version of GStreamer. What parameters should I use to "autogen" gnonlin in order for it to link to the (non-installed) cvs version ?
[16:10] <thomasvs> bilboed: set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to point to /path/to/gstreamer/pkgconfig
[16:11] <bilboed> thx :)
[16:16] <bilboed> ahah, now it comes up with real errors :) switching to debug mode
[16:16] <thomasvs> bilboed: there's a script to set up your environment for working uninstalled
[16:16] Action: thomasvs goes to check and update that
[16:17] <bilboed> where can I find it ? in the gstreamer tree ?
[16:19] <thomasvs> hang on, I'm updating it a little so it is easy to work with
[16:19] <bilboed> no problemm
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[16:33] <bilboed> what does the deprecated macro GST_CAPS_IS_FIXED do ?
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[16:37] <thomasvs> bilboed: almost done
[16:37] <thomasvs> bilboed: I guess it checked if the caps were "fixed" or not
[16:40] <bilboed> hmmm... I'm going to have to update gnonlin to caps2...
[16:41] <bilboed> I saw a doc about caps2 in docs/random
[16:41] <bilboed> is that the latest/official doc for the new caps system ?
[16:45] <bilboed> bon, well that's the only problem left in order to compile gnonlin it seems
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[16:59] <thomasvs> bilboed: done; http://www.freedesktop.org/~gstreamer/data/doc/gstreamer/head/faq/html/chapter-developing.html#developing-uninstalled-gstreamer
[16:59] <thomasvs> bilboed: you can get the script from cvs directly too btw
[17:01] <bilboed> thx a lot
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[17:18] <dolphy> who is George leigh mallory ?
[17:19] <thomasvs> no idea
[17:36] <ibsteveog> he must be the person who wants something that requires Xine to be wrapped...
[17:40] <thomasvs> bilboed: does the script help ?
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[17:41] <bilboed> thomasvs: the $PKG_CONFIG was the only problem
[17:41] <thomasvs> bilboed: hey :) i want it tested damnit :)
[17:42] <bilboed> ok :)
[17:42] <bilboed> it'll double-check my modifications
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[17:59] <bilboed> thomasvs: weird, it's not working for me... it doesn't set any of the "export"s
[17:59] <thomasvs> bilboed: huh ? that's strange
[17:59] <thomasvs> bilboed: what dist ?
[18:00] <bilboed> suse
[18:00] <thomasvs> hm hm
[18:00] <bilboed> but modified ever since it was installed (1 year ago)
[18:00] <thomasvs> maybe you're overriding your path in .bashrc or .bash_profiles or something ?
[18:00] <bilboed> nope
[18:01] <bilboed> none of the exports are set
[18:01] <bilboed> but the shell is created
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[18:10] <looksaus> I'm a very inexperienced programmer, a user actually who is trying to scratch an itch
[18:10] <thomasvs> looksaus: that is nice to know.
[18:11] <looksaus> I know that sentence is quite useless in itself
[18:11] <looksaus> but I figured it might be needed
[18:11] <looksaus> to explain my question
[18:12] <looksaus> I think I'd be able to do at least some work on a conversion from MusicXML to MIDI using xsl stylesheets
[18:12] <looksaus> but before starting that, I thought it would be wise to ask the specialists
[18:12] <looksaus> ...the gstreamer hackers, like you, thomasvs...
[18:13] <looksaus> if that's a useful thing to do
[18:13] <looksaus> or if I should leave things to others using more complicated tools
[18:14] <looksaus> any thoughts would be really appreciated
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[18:15] <looksaus> maybe this is the wrong place to ask though...
[18:15] <looksaus> sorry then...
[18:23] <thomasvs> nono
[18:23] <thomasvs> was busy doing something :)
[18:23] <thomasvs> uhm, it sounds like it is possible
[18:23] <thomasvs> but what do you want to do ?
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[18:23] <looksaus> mostly, I don't want to get stuck with a substandard solution
[18:24] Action: bilboed is away: off to work, bbl
[18:24] <looksaus> that does just well enough in an inflexible way
[18:24] <looksaus> for noone to come up with a better solution
[18:25] <looksaus> I don't know scratch about gstreamer for example
[18:25] <thomasvs> hm, well
[18:25] <looksaus> and I wonder if such xsl processing could be used in the future
[18:25] <thomasvs> MIDI's not in gst atm
[18:26] <looksaus> but suppose it were...
[18:26] <thomasvs> well, give an example of what sort of application you want to do so I can comment on what would be done how
[18:26] <looksaus> would it be possible to construct some kind of gstreamer plugin around this musicxml->midi xsl?
[18:26] <looksaus> for example
[18:27] <looksaus> an goal could for example be a score viewer
[18:27] <looksaus> in a VERY VERY distant future
[18:30] <looksaus> hm, sorry for not talking more clearly...
[18:30] <looksaus> I'd love to see midi playback from MusicXML scores in the middle term
[18:31] <looksaus> just the sound
[18:31] <thomasvs> ah, ok
[18:31] <thomasvs> well
[18:31] <looksaus> but I could imagine that combined with SVG
[18:31] <thomasvs> if htere were midi plugins
[18:32] <thomasvs> then it would just be a matter of converting the musicxml to midi using xsl
[18:32] <thomasvs> then playing them with gst
[18:34] <looksaus> ok, but suppose you would like to play it from your browser, for example...
[18:35] <thomasvs> hm
[18:36] <thomasvs> well, xml by definition is not a stream format ...
[18:36] <thomasvs> ... it's not impossible, but I'm not sure if it makes sense
[18:36] <thomasvs> hm
[18:36] <thomasvs> well, it still could be done
[18:37] <looksaus> still the xsl way, you mean?
[18:37] <thomasvs> well, it would be heavy and non-streaming
[18:37] <thomasvs> ie, basically you would do this in your musicxml to midi plugin:
[18:37] <thomasvs> a) read the whole file in, ie keep getting from the src
[18:37] <thomasvs> b) convert it completely to midi internally
[18:37] <thomasvs> c) start sending out midi events
[18:38] <thomasvs> so, it's not really how gstreamer is normally used, but still doable
[18:38] <looksaus> ok...
[18:38] <looksaus> well, since MusicXML is quite low bandwidth, I guess that's not so much of a problem...
[18:39] <looksaus> the "get the full file first" thing I mean
[18:39] <looksaus> maybe the problem could be in "xsl conversion is dog slow"
[18:40] <looksaus> but that is probably something I'd better ask in #xml?
[18:42] <ibsteveog> is there a page with the status of the plugins?  I found a cached one in google from gstreamer.org.. but nothing on freedesktop
[18:42] <thomasvs> ibsteveog: no, since it was always out of date
[18:42] <thomasvs> ibsteveog: we are working to that again though
[18:43] <thomasvs> ibsteveog: we're settting up an autobuild system and a media test suite
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[19:03] <bchildsdotcom> hi...
[19:03] <bchildsdotcom> I am having problems with gstreamer and my nforce 2
[19:03] <thomasvs> ho
[19:03] <thomasvs> shoot
[19:03] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:03] <bchildsdotcom> well I am using rhythmbox
[19:04] <bchildsdotcom> and have the latest version of gstreamer
[19:04] <bchildsdotcom> I think..
[19:04] <bchildsdotcom> what happens
[19:04] <bchildsdotcom> is when using osssink
[19:04] <bchildsdotcom> it plays back at 48000 hz rather than 44100
[19:04] <bchildsdotcom> I'll post the error message in just a sec..
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> ** (rhythmbox:11730): WARNING **: couldn't set requested OSS parameters, enjoy the noise :)
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> at which point it plays fine
[19:05] <sxpert> bchildsdotcom: use alsa, no more problems
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> but a little to fast/high
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:05] <sxpert> bchildsdotcom: oss is da suck
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> yeah
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> well
[19:05] <bchildsdotcom> I'll see If I can get that setup
[19:06] <bchildsdotcom> what should I set in gconf
[19:06] <bchildsdotcom> alsasink
[19:06] <bchildsdotcom> ?
[19:06] <sxpert> yeah
[19:06] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:06] <bchildsdotcom> I'll try to set that up now..
[19:06] <sxpert> or use the oss emulation layer but that's a little buggy
[19:06] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:08] <bchildsdotcom> right
[19:08] <bchildsdotcom> I have to download some stuff
[19:08] <bchildsdotcom> on dialup.. :(
[19:08] <bchildsdotcom> take about 6 minutes.
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[19:10] <thomasvs> bchildsdotcom: oss is fine, using alsa isn't a solution
[19:10] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:10] <thomasvs> bchildsdotcom: what versions are you using of gst and rb ?
[19:10] <bchildsdotcom> rb 6.5
[19:10] <bchildsdotcom> 0.6.5
[19:11] <sxpert> thomasvs: actually, the integrated sound in the nforce2 is braindead...
[19:11] <bchildsdotcom> gstreamer 0.6.5
[19:13] <thomasvs> bchildsdotcom: hm, in 0.6 it will be hard to fix
[19:13] <Misirlou> sxpert: Well, yes, the NVIDIA slogan is Braindead 'R' Us.
[19:13] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:13] <bchildsdotcom> should I upgrade?
[19:13] <bchildsdotcom> I have just been doing apt-get.. on fedora
[19:13] <thomasvs> hm, well
[19:13] <thomasvs> I'm still working on the new packages
[19:13] <thomasvs> should be done this week
[19:13] <bchildsdotcom> I tried compiling .6.4 earlier
[19:13] <bchildsdotcom> it didn't like me...
[19:14] <bchildsdotcom> is there an artsd link for gstreamer?
[19:14] <bchildsdotcom> I could use that as there is no nois
[19:14] <bchildsdotcom> e
[19:14] <bchildsdotcom> just lag...
[19:15] <thomasvs> yeah, but it's been a while since the arts sink got tested
[19:15] <bchildsdotcom> hm
[19:16] <bchildsdotcom> I don't have oss probs with xmms
[19:16] <bchildsdotcom> or xine
[19:16] <bchildsdotcom> etc
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[19:16] <bchildsdotcom> but anyway
[19:17] <sxpert> Misirlou: I know, I have one of those, and via is even worse sometimes
[19:17] <bchildsdotcom> what should I set to try arts
[19:17] <thomasvs> bchildsdotcom: well, it has to do rate conversion
[19:17] <bchildsdotcom> yep
[19:17] <thomasvs> bchildsdotcom: in 0.7, that got fixed properly
[19:17] <bchildsdotcom> i figured as much
[19:18] <bchildsdotcom> ok
[19:18] <bchildsdotcom> my previous problem
[19:18] <bchildsdotcom> was that when compiling
[19:18] <bchildsdotcom> it wouldn't play nicely with my rpm dependencies...
[19:19] <bchildsdotcom> but if you are working on packages I think I will just wait for that..
[19:19] <bchildsdotcom> thanks
[19:19] <bchildsdotcom> meanwhile I will try getting alsa to work
[19:20] <bchildsdotcom> thanks for all your help everyone..
[19:20] <bchildsdotcom> ...
[19:21] <thomasvs> no problem
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[19:28] <mxpxpod> why is it that when I try to listen to internet talk radio, I get an internal error regarding a pad problem in gstreamer?
[19:29] <thomasvs> mxpxpod: file a bug with the debug info
[19:29] <mxpxpod> thomasvs: which debug info?
[19:31] <thomasvs> mxpxpod: what app are you using ?
[19:31] <mxpxpod> rhythmbox
[19:31] <mxpxpod> but the command line gst-launch-ext-0.7 won't work on the URL either
[19:31] <thomasvs> mxpxpod: that last one is normal, it's not meant to work on that, it's for files
[19:31] <mxpxpod> ok
[19:31] <thomasvs> mxpxpod: well, rhythmbox should have a debug button for the error message
[19:31] <thomasvs> I'll ask walters
[19:32] <bchildsdotcom> hi, its me again
[19:32] <bchildsdotcom> just wondering what I should set to use the artsd output plugin
[19:32] <bchildsdotcom> just trying stuff out
[19:32] <bchildsdotcom> thanks
[19:33] <mxpxpod> thomasvs: can you see if this station gives you problems with rb?
[19:34] <thomasvs> mxpxpod: I never listen to internet radio anymore htese days
[19:34] <mxpxpod> thomasvs: damn
[19:34] <thomasvs> bchildsdotcom: does gst-inspect | grep arts say someting ?
[19:34] <bchildsdotcom> gst_arts:  gstarts: aRts plugin
[19:34] <bchildsdotcom> artsdsink:  artsdsink: aRtsd audio sink
[19:34] <bchildsdotcom> so artsdsink?
[19:35] <thomasvs> yep
[19:35] <bchildsdotcom> k thanks again..
[19:35] <thomasvs> but if it breaks, you keep the pieces :)
[19:35] <bchildsdotcom> yeah I know..
[19:35] <bchildsdotcom> :)
[19:36] <bchildsdotcom> segmentation fault...
[19:36] <bchildsdotcom> oh well
[19:36] <bchildsdotcom> I'll just have to wait.
[19:36] <bchildsdotcom> thanks anyway.
[19:41] <look^away> thomasvs, had to leave unexpectedly an hour ago, so I had no chance to say
[19:41] <look^away> THANKS for your advice!
[19:43] <thomasvs> look^away: no problem
[19:43] Nick change: look^away -> looksaus
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[20:00] <bchildsdotcom> hi, its me again
[20:00] <bchildsdotcom> I found a .7 rmp
[20:00] <bchildsdotcom> rpm
[20:00] <bchildsdotcom> .7.4
[20:00] <bchildsdotcom> so I will be trying that..
[20:00] <bchildsdotcom> thanks again thomasvs
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[21:53] <Company> anybody doing a guadec presentation?
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[21:54] Action: Company pings ds-work, thomasvs, dolphy to get his question answered
[21:55] <thomasvs> I'm not
[21:55] Action: wheels was actually invited to GUADEC, but I can't remember the context at the moment...
[21:55] <dolphy> Company: no plans for the moment
[21:55] <dolphy> :)
[21:55] <Company> today is abstract submission deadline...
[21:56] <dolphy> Company: we are just planning to stream the talks with GStreamer 
[21:58] <Company> cool
[21:58] <Company> though that might require working net plugins ;)
[22:00] <dolphy> Company: that's on our todo list :)
[22:00] <dolphy> Company: i made some changes to alsa
[22:00] <dolphy> Company: you might want to revert it and do it another way
[22:00] <dolphy> Company: alsasink was not gst_element_erroring on busy audio device
[22:01] <Company> not good
[22:01] <dolphy> well now it does
[22:01] <dolphy> but still alsa is puking some output on stderr it seems
[22:01] <dolphy> and i don't really like it
[22:02] <dolphy> haven't found how to hide that though
[22:03] <Company> alsa or gstalsa?
[22:05] <dolphy> gstalsa.c
[22:05] <dolphy> ah the output ?
[22:05] <dolphy> seems it s alsa
[22:05] <dolphy> haven't found anything related in gstalsa.c code
[22:06] <dolphy> look like an output from snd_pcm_open itself
[22:09] <Company> maybe you can suppress it somehow
[22:09] <Company> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/group___output.html is the API
[22:09] <Company> i never tried it though
[22:14] <dolphy> how does one creates a GValue ?
[22:14] <dolphy> there's no gvalue_new
[22:16] <Company> dolphy: GValues are only created on the stack
[22:16] <Company> dolphy: you use GValue v = { 0, };
[22:16] <Company> and then use that GValue
[22:16] <dolphy> ah right :)
[22:17] <dolphy> but you have to g_value_init it right ?
[22:17] <Company> most of the time, yeah
[22:20] <dolphy> GValue width = { 0 }, height = { 0 };
[22:20] <dolphy>     
[22:20] <dolphy>     width = g_value_init (&width, G_TYPE_INT);
[22:20] <dolphy>     height = g_value_init (&height, G_TYPE_INT);
[22:20] <dolphy> that's right ?
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[22:24] <Company> i think so, yeah
[22:25] <Company> maybe you need to do { 0, } instead of [ 0 }
[22:28] <thomasvs> somebody commit something
[22:36] <dolphy> thomasvs: i will soon
[22:36] <dolphy> thomasvs: finnishing my caps renego in getcaps
[22:36] <dolphy> thomasvs: btw we are not rebuilding gst-ffmpeg
[22:36] Action: dolphy blames johan
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[22:44] <thomasvs> there's no point yet to rebuild gst-ffmpeg
[22:44] <thomasvs> first needs to be stable and useful :)
[22:46] <taaz> where's the debian builders? ;)
[22:47] <taaz> so what's the deal with this ffmpeg thing now?  it's a totally external package?
[22:50] Action: dolphy doesn't like GValue
[22:51] <Company> GValue requires getting used to
[22:51] <Company> why do you need it anyway?
[22:54] <Company> man i suck at writing abstracts
[22:54] <dolphy> Company: ximagesink needs to change width/height values in the caps before returning them to _getcaps if an external window has already been given
[22:55] <dolphy> Company: to trigger correct videoscaling even if the window hasn't moved  and the pipeline is in READY
[22:55] <Company> gst_structure_field_fixate_nearest_int?
[22:56] <Company> (or whatever it's called exactly?)
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[22:57] Action: dolphy checks
[22:58] <dolphy> gst_caps_structure_fixate_field_nearest_int
[22:59] <dolphy> those function lacks a lot of documentation
[23:11] <Company> thomasvs: you're good at writing abstracts?
[23:14] <Company> thomasvs: wanna look over mine?
[23:17] <dolphy> Company: you want to give a gstreamer talk ?
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[23:21] <Company> dolphy: yeah - we should have at least one at guadec ;)
[23:21] Action: Uraeus hates french movies
[23:22] Nick change: dolphy -> french
[23:22] <thomasvs> Company: sure, mail it on
[23:22] Action: french movies hates norwegians
[23:22] Nick change: french -> dolphy
[23:23] <thomasvs> Uraeus: you checked out jeux d'enfants i take it ?
[23:25] <Uraeus> correct. I mean I don't need an american happy ending, but there has to be a middle way somewhere
[23:25] <thomasvs> it's a happy ending no ?
[23:25] <thomasvs> they're lovers forever united
[23:26] <dolphy> thomasvs: i think that my ximagesink window can only go in fixate
[23:26] <dolphy> thomasvs: in getcaps it makes caps nego fail
[23:27] <Uraeus> thomasvs: there is nothing romantic about suicide pacts IMHO
[23:27] <thomasvs> dolphy: on renego too ?
[23:27] <thomasvs> Uraeus: dude, it's a movie :)
[23:27] <dolphy> thomasvs: well i m not able to go to that point
[23:27] <dolphy> thomasvs: it makes the first nego fail
[23:27] <thomasvs> Uraeus: actually, IMO the movie should have stopped after the cementing
[23:27] <thomasvs> Uraeus: you got your ending with the old geriatric couple, no ?
[23:27] <Uraeus> thomasvs: I know, but I wanted to see something uplifting, a celebration of life. Not a spiral of destructiveness
[23:28] <thomasvs> dolphy: right, but you were only using that extra code when the caps were already set, no ?
[23:28] <Uraeus> thomasvs: that to, not sure how to interprete the ending
[23:28] <thomasvs> Uraeus: well, don't go see bambi or the lion king then anytime soon
[23:28] <thomasvs> Uraeus: spoiler: mom and dad die
[23:28] <dolphy> thomasvs: no
[23:28] <dolphy> thomasvs: if i have an xwindow i try to fix the caps to the window's size
[23:28] <dolphy> thomasvs: why should i only do that on renego
[23:28] <dolphy> thomasvs: and how to know if it's renego
[23:29] <thomasvs> dolphy: because I thought the point was to keep the window size the same when going to a new media with different size ?
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[23:30] <dolphy> the point is to enforce the window's size at caps negotiation
[23:30] <dolphy> no matter if it's renego or whatever
[23:30] <Uraeus> hmm, think I should go see Les Miserables to cheer up
[23:31] <thomasvs> dolphy: ah, ok, I thought it was only on new media/renego
[23:31] <thomasvs> so why does nego fail then on first nego ?
[23:31] <dolphy> thomasvs: hmm i m a bit confused though
[23:31] <dolphy> thomasvs: because if i enforce the window's size at caps nego i will never know the media's original size
[23:31] <thomasvs> dolphy: why do you need to know hte original media size ?
[23:32] <dolphy> thomasvs: to respect ratio
[23:32] <Company> thomasvs: sent
[23:33] <dolphy> thomasvs: hmm i could do something like when sink_linking i set a flag
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[23:33] <dolphy> thomasvs: and on first chain
[23:33] <thomasvs> dolphy: hm - that does sound then like you would want to use a fixate function from the x plugin
[23:33] <dolphy> thomasvs: if that flag is set i gst_pad_try_set_Caps to the window's size
[23:33] <dolphy> thomasvs: oh wait
[23:33] <dolphy> thomasvs: another idea
[23:33] <dolphy> tada...
[23:33] <thomasvs> dolphy: ie, set a width, check back what height you get from the others, and set that
[23:34] <thomasvs> dolphy: hm, that raises an interesting point though
[23:34] <dolphy> even better 
[23:34] <dolphy> gst_x_overlay_expose
[23:34] <dolphy> double use of that function
[23:34] <dolphy> love that
[23:34] <thomasvs> dolphy: how is information sent that video read from stream is to be displayed at a certain aspect ratio ?
[23:34] <thomasvs> hold that thought, I have a bathtub calling
[23:34] <dolphy> gst_x_overlay_expose will draw the current frame in the drawable AND act like an expose event has been received
[23:34] <thomasvs> need to smell good at work tomorrow, night :)
[23:35] <thomasvs> and somebody better commit something today damnit
[23:35] Action: dolphy reverts all his changes
[23:35] <dolphy> i definitely prefer my new idea
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[23:38] <Company> thomasvs: just committed something
[23:39] <Company> thomasvs: and please hurry up looking over that abstract, i wanna go to bed and the deadline is today...
[23:39] <dolphy> http://build.fluendo.com:8080/
[23:39] <dolphy> it works :)
[23:41] <thaytoo> goodmorning
[23:41] <dolphy> morning
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[23:45] <thomasvs> Company: you mean, right now ?
[23:46] <Company> thomasvs: it's only an abstract :)
[23:47] <ibsteveog> does anyone know anything about rtjpeg?  it looks like it was written 5 years ago and never passed version 0.1.2
[23:48] <thomasvs> Company: looks good
[23:48] <thomasvs> Company: simple and to the point
[23:48] <Company> good
[23:48] <thomasvs> Company: you know you need to write a paper too ?
[23:48] <Uraeus> ok, night guys
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[23:48] <Company> yeah
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[02:52] <rootcode> hey
[02:53] <rootcode> anyone here?
[02:56] <Misirlou> rootcode: Thirty-six ones.
[02:56] <rootcode> lol, I was wonder if it was possible to grab the title and artist of the current song playing and export it to a file
[02:57] <thaytoo> rhythmbox?
[02:58] <Misirlou> There's a way, but I can never remember what tagging/commenting magic to use. :/
[02:58] <rootcode> ya, rhythmbox
[02:59] <thaytoo>  --print-playing may help you
[02:59] <thaytoo> rhythmbox --help too
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[02:59] <rootcode> thanks


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