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[04:56] <dilinger> man.  i can't stand mplayer.  i can't wait for 0.8 debian packages
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[05:37] <aeyakovenko> hello
[05:40] <aeyakovenko> anyone know if there is a gconf-2.5 dependency for gstreamer?
[05:41] <aeyakovenko> gstreamer 0.75 
[05:49] <thaytoo> no, any gconf should do
[05:54] <aeyakovenko> cool, thanks
[06:01] <BBB> er...
[06:01] Action: BBB thinks
[06:01] <BBB> what repository is RB in?
[06:01] <BBB> it doesn't compile for me
[06:01] <thaytoo> cvs.gnome.org
[06:03] <BBB> 'rhythbox' module?
[06:03] <BBB> +m
[06:03] <thaytoo> yeah
[06:08] <thaytoo> BBB: it just built here
[06:08] <BBB> crap
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:442: structure has no member named `playPause'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:443: structure has no member named `select'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:444: structure has no member named `play'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:445: structure has no member named `previous'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:446: structure has no member named `next'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:447: structure has no member named `getPlayingTime'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:448: structure has no member named `setPlayingTime'
[06:08] <BBB> rb-shell.c:449: structure has no member named `getPlayerProperties'
[06:09] Action: BBB "make clean && make's
[06:09] <thaytoo> yeah, that wants the idl stubs rebuilt I think
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[06:14] <thaytoo> BBB_: It built off a make clean too
[06:14] <BBB_> crap
[06:14] <BBB_> same error
[06:15] Action: BBB_ build again
[06:15] Action: BBB_ re-checks out CVS
[06:15] <BBB_> does it need a recent IDL?
[06:15] <BBB_> I'm building against partial gnome-2.2 and partial gnome-2.5
[06:18] <thaytoo> it could well be a idl compiler problem
[06:18] <BBB_> which version od IDL do you have?
[06:19] <thaytoo> orbit-idl-2 2.9.8 - serial 20
[06:20] <BBB_> hm
[06:20] <BBB_> does compiling in different prefixes cause issues?
[06:20] <BBB_> I compile RB into /usr/local [default], gnome-2.2 is in /usr and gnome-2.5 is in /media/gnome
[06:21] <BBB_> and gstreamer is in ~/projects/gstreamer
[06:21] <thaytoo> urk :)
[06:21] <thaytoo> I use jhbuild for everything except gstreamer
[06:23] <BBB_> hm
[06:23] <BBB_> compiles fine now
[06:23] <BBB_> cute :)
[06:24] <BBB_> Segmentation fault
[06:24] <BBB_> nice :p
[06:24] <aeyakovenko> anyone know why i would get a ../../gst/.libs/libgstreamer-0.7.so: undefined reference to `g_value_take_boxed' when compiling 0.7.5
[06:28] <bitshifter> aeyakovenko: I think you need to   rm gst/gstmarshal.[ch]   and then do 'make' again
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[06:30] <BBB_> bye!
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[07:36] <aeyakovenko> i got a dumb question, is this doing what i think it is "gst-launch-0.7 v4lsrc ! ffenc_h263 ! ffdec_h263 ! xvideosink"
[07:37] <aeyakovenko> because i get this error "(process:30158): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstinterface.c: line 144 (gst_implements_interface_cast): assertion `gst_element_implements_interface (GST_ELEMENT (from), iface_type)' failed"  
[07:37] <aeyakovenko> i am wondering if it is actually encoding and decoding the stream like i want it to
[07:40] <thaytoo> use ximagesink and xvimagesink in 0.7, for starters
[07:41] <aeyakovenko> ximagesink doesnt work
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[07:48] <thaytoo> you'll probably need a colorspace element or ffcolorspace before it
[07:48] <thaytoo> yo, later
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[07:57] <aeyakovenko> how do i build the ffmpeg plugins for 0.7?
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[08:33] <mathrick> re
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[10:03] <KoRnouille> 'morning
[10:03] <KoRnouille> gst_util_get_int_arg --> how do I write this in python ?
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[10:47] <mathrick> yo dolphy
[10:54] <thomasvs> are there some fedora core 1 users here ?
[10:56] <KoRnouille> thomasvs: how could I translate gst_util_get_int_arg in python ?
[10:57] <thomasvs> KoRnouille: I think you'd best ask jdahlin
[10:57] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: how could I translate gst_util_get_int_arg in python ?
[10:58] <jdahlin> KoRnouille: one second, let me check what the function does
[11:00] <jdahlin> KoRnouille: obj.get_property(name)
[11:00] <jdahlin> KoRnouille: it will be converted to a int object automagically
[11:04] <KoRnouille> gstreamer.util_set_object_arg
[11:04] <jdahlin> obj.set_property(name, value)
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[11:26] <dolphy> hi
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[12:28] <jdahlin> hello iain & Uraeus
[12:28] <iain> hi
[12:28] <mathrick> yo iain, Uraeus
[12:29] <iain> yo
[12:29] <Uraeus> ello
[12:29] Action: Uraeus has a calm period at work :)
[12:29] <Uraeus> dolphy: around?
[12:31] <dolphy> Uraeus: yup
[12:32] <Uraeus> dolphy: regarding my gconf schema bug, while the main concern of the bug report turned out to be a broken installation on my side it did show that totem and gst-play use xvideosink as their default. Any chance you could fix that?
[12:32] <Uraeus> iain: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135779
[12:34] <iain> gah :/
[12:35] <Uraeus> iain: it would be great if you could look into it since GNOME 2.6 with what we hope is a well working gsr is getting close fast :)
[12:35] Action: dolphy checks
[12:36] <iain> Uraeus: yeah, I'll take a look
[12:36] <iain> Uraeus: but it sounds like weird caps nego stuff and I suck at that stuff
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[12:41] <dolphy> Uraeus: fixed
[12:42] <Uraeus> dolphy: thanks, closed the bug then :)
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[12:45] <Uraeus> hi foser
[12:46] <foser> morning Uraeus
[12:48] <Uraeus> hmm, maybe I should try and hook up with Tim Janik while in Berlin to try and talk him into doing some work to integrate Beast with GStreamer
[12:49] <thomasvs> Uraeus: that bug should be fixed, but I don't think it matters much for g-s-r
[12:50] <thomasvs> Uraeus: btw, jdahlin would appreciate it if you'd test the current g-s-r from cvs
[12:50] <Uraeus> ok, I test it when I get home, will probably leave here within the next hour :)
[12:53] <foser> thomasvs: did you get my mail on the packaging issues ?
[12:56] <thomasvs> foser: yeah, I'm getting to it tomorrow after I've done packaging everything and am sure everything is correct
[13:00] <jdahlin> http://build.fluendo.com:8080/FC1-media/events/5/log
[13:10] <iain> Uraeus: that bug pipeline works for me
[13:10] <iain> Uraeus: and it even makes a valid wav file :)
[13:12] <Uraeus> iain: ok, we close the bug then as a worksforme :)
[13:12] <iain> Uraeus: ok
[13:12] <thomasvs> Uraeus: make apoc provide some debug log or something
[13:12] <thomasvs> Uraeus: chances are he has a special mp3 or something
[13:12] <thomasvs> Uraeus: in any case, it needs to be fixed in a better way
[13:13] <Uraeus> ah ok
[13:14] <Uraeus> hmm, the helix browser plugin works really sweetly
[13:18] <iain> thomasvs: there's a patch in bugzilla to enable gnome-cd to use gstreamer for cdda stuff, but it needs some autoconf magic to make it be configurable (at the moment it always uses gstreamer)
[13:18] <iain> thomasvs: would you have time to do something about that?
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[13:19] <iain> (not before 2.6 obviously cos we're in code freeze)
[13:25] <thomasvs> iain: yeah, sure
[13:25] <thomasvs> iain: file a bug in bugzilla and assign it to me
[13:26] <iain> thomasvs: cool, thanks
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[13:31] <Uraeus> iain: ronald looked at that patch and was not sure if it did the correct thing in regards to how it used gstreamer
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[13:32] <iain> oh
[13:32] <iain> I just checked to see if it worked right and it seemed to
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[14:56] <mathrick> bbl
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[17:05] <Uraeus> g'day
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[17:07] <Uraeus> wb jdahlin
[17:10] <jdahlin> thank Uraeus
[17:11] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: if I set : self.v_xvimagesink.set_property("display", self.xid)
[17:11] <KoRnouille> this is how it's supposed to work ?
[17:11] <KoRnouille> self.xid = self.socket.get_id()
[17:11] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, I'm not sure how xvimagesink works
[17:12] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, you can use drawingarea.window.xid instead if you like
[17:12] <jdahlin> to avoid using sockets/plugs
[17:12] <KoRnouille> really ?
[17:12] <KoRnouille> gstreamer ? or gtk ?
[17:12] <jdahlin> I think so at least
[17:12] <jdahlin> gtk
[17:12] <KoRnouille> okay, I'll have a look at this
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[17:14] <KoRnouille> you need a top level window, right ?
[17:14] <KoRnouille> my top level window is set full screen + no border / decoration
[17:14] <KoRnouille> I'm just this sept close to figure out how to connect xvimagesink to my app window
[17:15] <KoRnouille> I just can't get that last bit to work
[17:15] <KoRnouille> if I use sockets, do I need to use Plug ?
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[17:16] <jdahlin> I'm not sure
[17:16] <jdahlin> but yeah, you'll always need a top level window I guess
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[17:21] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: would you have a look at my source if you have anytime ?
[17:31] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, sure
[17:31] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, send it to [email protected]
[17:32] <KoRnouille> okay jdahlin
[17:35] <ensonic> ciao
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[17:35] <earthworm> is there some way i can convert some old wma i have to ogg ?
[17:35] <earthworm> i am on gstreamer 0.6.x series still btw
[17:36] <thomasvs> earthworm: it probably works using ffmpeg, but I haven't tried myself ever.
[17:36] <Uraeus> earthworm: with 0.7 you should be able to convert them
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[17:36] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: done.
[17:37] <earthworm> i don't have 0.7  :(
[17:37] <earthworm> although i can't wait for a stable release to try it
[17:37] <Uraeus> earthworm: also we currently can't convert them for you even with 0.7 with they have DRM
[17:38] <earthworm> i ripped the tracks a few years ago to wma, that was before the DRM stuff wasn't it?
[17:38] <jdahlin> brb
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[17:38] <Uraeus> earthworm: yeah, think so
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[17:38] <earthworm> so, with ffmpeg how could i do it?
[17:38] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: received it okay ?
[17:39] <Uraeus> earthworm: you can only play it back with ffmpeg I think, think thomasvs misunderstood your question
[17:39] <earthworm> oh, i see
[17:39] <thomasvs> no, not at all
[17:39] <thomasvs> Uraeus: why do you think it cannot work with ffmpeg plugin in 0.6.4 ?
[17:39] <Uraeus> thomasvs: did we have a working wma plugin in 0.6?
[17:39] <Uraeus> I thought apoc fixed that up for 0.7
[17:39] <thomasvs> Uraeus: we were wrapping ffmpeg then already no ?
[17:40] <thomasvs> not sure
[17:40] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, yes
[17:40] <thomasvs> it's worth a shot at least
[17:40] <earthworm> oh, even better
[17:40] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: okay :)
[17:40] <earthworm> how can i test it on one of the files?
[17:41] <Uraeus> earthworm: run 'gst-inspect | grep ffmeg' to see if you have a two wma decoder plugins
[17:42] <earthworm> i got 4 output lines headed "INFO"
[17:42] <earthworm> they all look like initialisation, no mention of wma
[17:42] <Uraeus> earthworm: if so I think the pipeline would be something like 'gst-launch filesrc location=name.wma ! ffdec_wmav1 ! oggenc | filesink location=filename.ogg
[17:42] <thomasvs> earthworm: what platform are you on ?
[17:42] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, I can't really test it atm thought, I need to rebuild gstreamer and gnome first
[17:42] <Uraeus> earthworm: yeah, I get: ffmpeg:  ffdec_wmav1: FFMPEG wmav1 decoder
[17:42] <Uraeus> ffmpeg:  ffdec_wmav2: FFMPEG wmav2 decoder
[17:42] <earthworm> fedora core 1, is that what you mean?
[17:43] <thomasvs> earthworm: yeah
[17:43] <thomasvs> earthworm: do you have gst from source or packages ?
[17:43] <earthworm> packages
[17:43] <KoRnouille> jdahlin: when will you be able to rebuild ? I mean, today ? (17:43 pm here in France)
[17:43] <earthworm> i don't have ffmpeg installed i don't think
[17:43] <jdahlin> KoRnouille, nope
[17:44] <thomasvs> earthworm: ok, well, I'm currently working on new packages for the 0.6.x series
[17:44] <KoRnouille> okay, i'll get working on something else then... please, let me know when you have time.
[17:44] <thomasvs> earthworm: you could try installing the 0.7.x packages that I already have made too btw.
[17:44] <earthworm> its there in freshrpms though, i checked, can i just install ffmpeg, or do i need to a plugin for gstreamer too?
[17:44] <thomasvs> earthworm: you need a gstreamer plugin
[17:45] <earthworm> thomasvs: i think i was reading your blog about making rpms
[17:45] <thomasvs> anyone still have any requests for gst-plugins-0.6.5 ?
[17:45] <thomasvs> I'm going to release that today or tomorrow.
[17:46] Action: earthworm passes thomasvs a beer for packing gstreamer
[17:46] <thomasvs> earthworm: heh, thanks :)
[17:47] <earthworm> so do i have much chance of getting a gstreamer ffmpeg plugin for 0.6.x series?
[17:47] <thomasvs> earthworm: yeah, but I need to do the release first, then package it
[17:47] <thomasvs> earthworm: so, it would be tomorrow
[17:48] <thomasvs> earthworm: I cannot guarantee though that it will work
[17:48] <thomasvs> earthworm: but, the packages will be parallel
[17:48] <thomasvs> earthworm: so you will be able to install both 0.6 and 0.7 :)
[17:48] <thomasvs> earthworm: so you get the best of both worlds.
[17:48] <earthworm> yeah, that was what you blogged about, sounds great
[17:48] <thomasvs> KoRnouille: and as soon as that is done, I will do the same for rh9
[17:48] <earthworm> when i have 0.7..x then i hope i can dump Xine/Totem
[17:49] <earthworm> Xine video playback keeps flickering on my machine
[17:50] <KoRnouille> okay thomasvs. I guess I learned a lot from gstreamer these last few weeks (darn, im dealing with it's API), and I don't have such a need for having the package. I guess I have the plugz I need
[17:51] <KoRnouille> mpeg2enc doesn't work though on my computer
[17:51] <KoRnouille> something's missing for gst-plugings to build it
[17:51] <KoRnouille> (yes, I have the )
[17:51] <KoRnouille> (yes, I have the *-devel)
[17:57] <KoRnouille> trying to set none fixed caps on pad udpsrc:src, not allowed. What am I supposed to do there ?
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[18:56] <Uraeus> thomasvs: heh, noticed you where a bit unhappy about the gst-plugins spec :)
[18:58] <thomasvs> Uraeus: hehe :)
[18:58] <thomasvs> Uraeus: yeah, it's hard to keep it uptodate when everything is everywhere
[18:59] <Uraeus> yeah, I guess I have not kept adding stuff in a good order, probably a mix of adding plugins close to other similar plugins and simply adding them at the bottom 
[18:59] <Uraeus> sorry for that
[19:01] <thomasvs> well, I cleaned it up mostly
[19:01] <thomasvs> although, I changed the structure for hte actual packages by request from people
[19:01] <thomasvs> so I'm not sure what to do about the spec file we have in the tarball
[19:01] Action: Uraeus feels really good today; I went to the real estate agent to put my appartment up for sale :)
[19:01] <thomasvs> woohoo ! :)
[19:03] <Uraeus> now I just need to figure out how to pay the 1000 Euro electricity bill I got yesterday ;)
[19:04] <Uraeus> reverting that opt patch fixed loading of songs into RB for me :)
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[20:10] <mariano> using gstream HEAD, rhythmbox hangs after each song
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[20:17] <mxpxpod> mariano: are you using rhythmbox from arch head?
[20:17] <mariano> cvs
[20:17] <mxpxpod> mariano: use the arch one, it's usually more up to date
[20:18] <mariano> hmm, can I tell jhbuild do use arch?
[20:18] <mxpxpod> I dunno... you might have to request it from jamesh
[20:24] <wheels> Hmm, wasn't "oGALAXYo" once a big GNOME zealot back in the day?
[20:26] <Misirlou> he still is
[20:26] <Misirlou> Now he is a huge CVSGnome zealot to boot.
[20:27] <mxpxpod> heh
[20:31] <wheels> Misirlou: Heh -- that's what I thought.  He's in #kde-devel at the moment...
[20:32] <mariano> well, he actually seems to think kde is technically superior...
[20:32] <wheels> mariano: Ok, at one point I remeber it being the opposite...
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[21:05] <BBB> Bladiebladiebla
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[21:15] <ds-work> !
[21:16] Action: ds-work <-- hungry
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[22:33] <Misirlou> hrmph
[22:33] <Misirlou> Someone write a Theora plug-in!
[22:35] <sxpert> hrmph
[22:35] <sxpert> someone finds that memory leak
[22:35] <ds-work> Misirlou: go for it :)
[22:36] <Misirlou> We are lagging behind. :(
[22:36] <ds-work> ffdec_theora?
[22:37] <Misirlou> MPlayer and Xine already have code that we could steal, as well as the example decoder in Xiph CVS
[22:37] <Misirlou> Well, not steal
[22:38] <Misirlou> Stealing is good, except when it's not allowed by licenses.
[22:40] <dilinger> "borrow".  we give it back.
[22:42] Action: ds-work wonders what gst-plugins/ext/theora/theoradec.c is for
[22:42] <Misirlou> Yes, borrow.
[22:42] <Misirlou> It's more like mutual stealing, though.
[22:43] <Misirlou> I steal from you, you steal from me, we're one big happy stealing family.
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[23:41] <Zeenix> thomasvs: alive?
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[00:11] <rvalles> Misirlou: not stealing, but sharing
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[00:11] <Misirlou> omg rvalles
[00:11] <Misirlou> You follow me everywhere. :)
[00:11] <rvalles> Misirlou: free software developers aren't "buglars" (how is it written?)
[00:11] <rvalles> Misirlou: me? I'm innocent!
[00:12] <Misirlou> rvalles: Just one more R, "burglars."
[00:12] Action: rvalles is away: dinner 
[00:12] <rvalles> Misirlou: arigatou gozaimasu
[00:13] <Misirlou> That word is generally reserved for stupid criminals that dress up in black sweatshirts, sweatpants, and a hat then proceed to enter houses via windows.
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[00:51] <Misirlou> rvalles: If that was a legitimate phrase, you have successfully stumped Babel FIsh.
[00:54] <thaytoo> 'arigatou gozaimasu' -> thank you very much
[00:54] <thaytoo> (japanese)
[00:58] <Zeenix> do anyone know the algo. behind modf func?
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[01:08] <thaytoo> Zeenix: which function?
[01:09] <ds-work> man modf?
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[01:12] <Zeenix> thaytoo: modf in math.h
[01:12] <Zeenix> ds-work: no i was just being lazy to donwload the glibc source
[01:13] <ds-work> Zeenix: usually there's an FPU instruction for it
[01:14] <Zeenix> ds-work: hmmm.. actually i needed it for the kernel
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[01:27] <aeyakovenko> hello
[01:27] <Zeenix> hi
[01:28] <aeyakovenko> how can i set up the ffmpeg plugins for the 0.7 release?
[01:30] <aeyakovenko> is that a configure option for gst-plugins?
[01:31] <Zeenix> aeyakovenko: yes there is an option to enable/disable that
[01:32] <Zeenix> aeyakovenko: but have'nt touched gst for a while so ds-work would better tell..
[01:34] <aeyakovenko> when i ran the configure script i didnt see anything about ffmpeg
[01:35] <ds-work> 0.7.5 doesn't have ffmpeg
[01:35] <aeyakovenko> doh
[01:35] <aeyakovenko> why not?
[01:35] <ds-work> it was moved to a separate package
[01:35] <aeyakovenko> ds-wok is that packaga available for 0.7.5?
[01:36] <Misirlou> thaytoo: That's odd, 'cause Babel Fish has Japanese to English and it didn't catch it.
[01:36] <aeyakovenko> by the way, do you know if anyone is working on live.com, i am intrested in helping
[01:36] <ds-work> aeyakovenko: perhaps you should read the release notes
[01:37] <aeyakovenko> ds-work, my fault, i've been reling on the gentoo ebuilds to install it, i didnt realize it was moved as a seperate package
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[01:45] <thaytoo> Misirlou: it probably wants it written in hiragana, rather than romaji
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[01:46] <Misirlou> thaytoo: Ah, that probably explains it. Are there any tools to convert between the two?
[01:46] <thaytoo> the japanese input method in gnome works great
[01:46] <thaytoo> you have to install it separately
[01:47] <Misirlou> Well I have no idea how to input those characters. :)
[01:47] <thaytoo> you use the japanese input method and type romaji
[01:47] <Misirlou> ohhhhh
[01:47] <Misirlou> that's cool
[01:47] <thaytoo> you type 'arigatoo', and it outputs the hiragana 'a' 'ri' 'ga' 'to' 'u'
[01:48] <thaytoo> and then offers you kanji for them :)
[01:48] <thaytoo> it's way cool
[01:48] <Misirlou> that sounds awesome
[01:48] <thaytoo> ...........
[01:48] <Misirlou> Now to figure out how to install it . . . :)
[01:49] <thaytoo> google for japanese IME gtk2
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[01:49] <BBB> GConf audio sink not found, using osssink
[01:49] <BBB> GConf video sink not found, using xvideosink
[01:49] <BBB> ?!?
[01:49] <BBB> xvideosink?!?
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[01:50] <thaytoo> BBB: needs updating, obviously
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[01:51] <BBB> yes
[01:53] <mathrick> Misirlou: google for "gjiten", there will be link to IME on that page, but watch out - you may get japanese version of site :)
[01:54] <mathrick> thaytoo: do you use that IME from gjiten guy?
[01:54] <Misirlou> mathrick: Nah, just the impossible-to-read-because-of-the-horrible-coloring English version.
[01:54] <mathrick> Misirlou: huh? IIRC, it's just brownish
[01:54] <BBB> this just sucks
[01:54] Action: BBB will have to fix totem for quite a few hours
[01:54] <Misirlou> mathrick: Yeah, but only after the image loads.
[01:55] <Misirlou> Before, it's light brown on only-slightly-darker brown.
[01:55] <mathrick> Misirlou: ahh, I didn't notice coloring before that :)
[01:55] <Misirlou> Or vice versa. I'm too lazy to remember.
[01:55] <ds-work> BBB: faandct.c:138: warning: implicit declaration of function `lrintf'
[01:56] <ds-work> er, nm
[01:56] <ds-work> that's just a warning
[01:56] <ds-work> make[8]: *** No rule to make target `8bps.c', needed by `8bps.lo'.  Stop.
[01:56] <mathrick> Misirlou: you can always select all, it always works :)
[01:56] <thaytoo> mathrick: I use im-ja 
[01:56] <Misirlou> ds-work: We need to compile with -Wall -Werror -pedantic -pedantic-errors!
[01:56] <thaytoo> im-ja.sf.net
[01:56] <Misirlou> Anything less is poopoo.
[01:56] <mathrick> thaytoo: that's the one
[01:56] <ds-work> -pedantic is stupid
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[01:57] <mathrick> thaytoo: Canna or Wnn version?
[01:58] <BBB> ds-work: where's that?
[01:58] <Misirlou> Oh, and I want -std=iso9899:1990 too.
[01:58] <ds-work> gst-ffmpeg
[01:58] <mathrick> Misirlou: -pedantic trips over any nontrivial construct, it hurts more than helps
[01:58] <BBB> be more verbose please ;)
[01:58] <BBB> OS? arch?
[01:58] <ds-work> BBB: Debian i386
[01:58] <BBB> what dir?
[01:58] <ds-work> make[8]: Leaving directory `/home/ds/gst/gst-ffmpeg/gst-libs/ext/ffmpeg/ffmpeg/libavcodec'
[01:59] <Misirlou> What's the weather like?
[02:01] <BBB> dammit, why are my build files randomly disappearing
[02:01] Action: mathrick wonders why Evo is so slooow at getting POP3 summary, it looks almost like it fetches whole mails in the process
[02:03] <ds-work> BBB: http://www.schleef.org/~ds/patch
[02:03] <ds-work> BBB: any clue why this make autogen.sh work for me?
[02:03] <ds-work> otherwise, I'll make thomasvs look at it
[02:03] <mathrick> hmm, time to sleep
[02:03] <mathrick> nite
[02:04] Nick change: mathrick -> mathrick|sleep
[02:04] Action: BBB kicks autogen.sh
[02:04] <BBB> I'm having the same issue
[02:05] <BBB> didn't have it yesterday
[02:05] <BBB> fix is to remove the brackets, apparently
[02:05] <BBB> I don't know why
[02:05] Action: BBB is really bad at automagic
[02:05] <BBB> I'll commit my "fix" (?) in a second
[02:05] <BBB> but this is odd, yes
[02:06] <BBB> funnily, it also deletes my build files after a while
[02:06] <BBB> automagically
[02:06] <BBB> how useful
[02:06] Action: BBB wonderws why
[02:07] <Misirlou> BBB: luckily we have thomasvs for automagic :)
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[02:09] <BBB> fortunately
[02:09] <BBB> I go crazy once every while
[02:09] <BBB> can someone reply o the MIT guy?
[02:09] <BBB> my email won't work
[02:09] <BBB> no SMTP :/
[02:11] <ds-work> no, because I can't get videotestsrc ! avimux ! filesink to create a decent AVI file :)
[02:11] <BBB> that's not a valid pipeline
[02:11] <BBB> you need to use a requestpad
[02:12] <ds-work> well, you know what I mean
[02:12] <ds-work> it creates an avi file, just not a good one
[02:13] <BBB> I haven't testes avimux in ages
[02:13] <BBB> decent videoplayback hasn't worked in ages here
[02:13] <BBB> I'm trying to fix all the things that cloking, capsmerge and so on broke for me locally... 
[02:13] <BBB> I'll fix avimux after that
[02:13] <BBB> I mean... if this is 0.8.0, the release that we've been waitign for so long
[02:14] <ds-work> Execution ended after 2 iterations (sum 41637000 ns, average 20818500 ns, min 3452000 ns, max 38185000 ns).
[02:14] <ds-work> that's what I get for a 30 second clip of videotestsrc
[02:15] <ds-work> but there's no reason to worry about that now, I suppose
[02:15] <BBB> no
[02:15] <BBB> I'd first like AVIs and MPEGs to play fine in totem
[02:15] <BBB> and they don't
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[02:16] <ds-work> heh.  that avi makes xine segfault
[02:16] <BBB> faad is broken... xviddec, divxdec... oh my...
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[02:17] <BBB> and everything gives me 16x16 windows
[02:17] Action: BBB cries
[02:18] <BBB> ds-work: do you use totem?
[02:18] <BBB> or rhythmbox?
[02:18] Action: ds-work wonders if wingo screwed up caps negotiation
[02:18] <ds-work> I use rb
[02:18] <ds-work> continuously
[02:18] <BBB> I had a discussion with jon (trow) lately... he suggested that all of us install totem and try out random movie files once in a while
[02:18] <BBB> I think he's right
[02:19] <ds-work> and fix the bugs
[02:19] <BBB> I just did it... would you please do that too? :)
[02:19] <BBB> half of it is core bugs!
[02:19] <BBB> or plugin bugs
[02:19] <BBB> and we need to fix those
[02:19] <ds-work> I tend to do that with gst-player occasionally
[02:19] <ds-work> I haven't been doing much at all recently
[02:19] <BBB> :)
[02:20] Action: ds-work <-- useless
[02:20] <BBB> ok, I've got something tonight, I'll be back later tonight... and I'll work on all this tomorrow, too...
[02:20] <ds-work> probably need a vacation
[02:20] <BBB> no... we need to *seriously* stop developing core +/- 3-4 months before the stable release series start
[02:20] <BBB> and focus on application issues from then on
[02:20] <BBB> app issues can be plugin bugs
[02:20] <BBB> but you get the idea
[02:20] <BBB> anyway
[02:21] <BBB> I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow
[02:21] <BBB> bye!
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