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[03:03] <thomasvs>  gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../libavcodec -msse -fomit-frame-pointer -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H=1 -MT libmmxsse_la-dsputil_mmx.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libmmxsse_la-dsputil_mmx.Tpo -c dsputil_mmx.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libmmxsse_la-dsputil_mmx.o
[03:03] <thomasvs> dsputil_mmx.c: In function `h263_h_loop_filter_mmx':
[03:03] <thomasvs> dsputil_mmx.c:614: error: can't find a register in class `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
[03:03] <thomasvs> make[3]: *** [libmmxsse_la-dsputil_mmx.lo] Error 1
[03:04] <thomasvs> BBB: after removing disable-mmx patch, and adding fomit-frame-pointer
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[03:07] <LeRoutier> bouh
[03:08] <thomasvs> BBB: going to bed, send me a mail so I know what to do with this error, otherwise I leave it for now
[03:19] <thaytoo> g'night thomas
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[03:24] <BBB> use -fomit-frame-pointer
[03:24] <BBB> I just told you
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[03:25] <BBB> oh, he does
[03:25] <BBB> hnm
[03:25] Action: BBB doesn't know
[03:25] <BBB> ask dave
[03:25] <BBB> :)
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[03:31] <LeRoutier> is the owner of this one present ? (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137052) : alsa-lib 1.0.3a crash
[03:35] <BBB> I have alsa-lib, I'll try in a minute
[03:35] <BBB> currently building
[03:37] <BBB> LeRoutier: you're in bugsquad, aren't you?
[03:37] <BBB> could you help me?
[03:37] <BBB> how do I get a CC for each gnome-media bug?
[03:37] <LeRoutier> i just updated to 1.0.3b and it compiled well
[03:37] <BBB> what's their list?
[03:37] <BBB> compile... it must run :)
[03:37] <BBB> sinesrc ! alsasink
[03:37] <LeRoutier> well no, i'm in no bugsquad :)
[03:38] <BBB> etc.
[04:02] <LeRoutier> good night ppl
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[05:41] Action: BBB_ curses as he can't get one quicktime MPEG-4 vid/aud movie to play
[05:41] <BBB_> everything else on my HD plays
[05:41] <BBB_> well, one is a bit slow
[05:41] <BBB_> but ohwell
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[06:04] <BBB_> ds-work or ds: awake?
[06:04] <BBB_> I get no audio data from qtdemux for one specific file
[06:05] <taaz> i am so pissed off right now
[06:06] <taaz> i have purged and reinstalled nearly every doc building related package on my sys and yet it still fails to build the docs
[06:06] <BBB_> what fails?
[06:06] <taaz> jadetex pwg.tex
[06:06] <BBB_> what does it say?
[06:06] <BBB_> did you ask thomas?
[06:06] <BBB_> he always fixes my docbuild issues
[06:06] <taaz> it says nothing, it spins forever
[06:06] <taaz> it's an undebugable program itself
[06:07] <BBB_> you shouldn't debug other's stuff
[06:07] <taaz> twisted maze of autogenerated c
[06:07] <BBB_> you should use it and complain to them if it doesn't work
[06:07] <taaz> tex itself must be some magic
[06:07] <taaz> it works on my other machine
[06:07] <taaz> it works in a cleanly installed chroot
[06:07] <BBB_> that's probably it :)
[06:07] <BBB_> magic
[06:08] <taaz> so clearly it's my system
[06:08] <taaz> but i don't know what's left to check
[06:08] <bitshifter> does it work with a newly-created user account?
[06:08] <taaz> no
[06:08] <taaz> it's not user env
[06:09] <taaz> i'm just so mad. i've probably spent about 12 hours over the last few days debugging this crap
[06:09] <taaz> if anyone wants an account to debug it, just ask ;)
[06:10] <bitshifter> you could do  strace -eopen -f  on it and then diff both straces *g*
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[06:38] Action: BBB_ has quicktime issues
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[06:40] <taupter_> Hello. Is somebody here used to work with video4linux2?
[06:41] Nick change: taupter_ -> taupter
[06:41] <BBB_> yes, me
[06:41] <taupter> Oh, BBB_, please help me.
[06:42] <taupter> I'm a bit lost trying to get frames in stream mode, with no success at all.
[06:42] <taupter> And when I use read() I just 10fps.
[06:43] <taupter> I need 30fps. The worst part is I "need", not just "want".
[06:44] <taupter> And I didn't find one single concise example that could show me how to do it.
[06:44] <taupter> Can you help me, please?
[06:45] <taupter> Please... I beg you.
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[06:47] <BBB_> ehm
[06:47] <BBB_> why do you use read()?
[06:47] <BBB_> use mmap()
[06:47] <BBB_> and read the video4linux2 docs, there's mmap sample code on there
[06:48] <BBB_> http://bytesex.org/v4l/spec/mmap.html
[06:48] <BBB_> there
[06:49] <taupter> Yes, I saw. But a sample application I'm writing here gets lots of EINV from the ioctls
[06:49] <BBB_> load the driver with debugging enabled, and look at the dmesg output
[06:49] <BBB_> for the bttv or zr36067 drivers (that's the only ones I know in detail), there's a debug modprobe property
[06:50] <BBB_> EINV means wrong settings in your requests
[06:51] <taupter> I got VIDIOC_G_PARM, VIDIOC_QBUF VIDIOC_DQBUF errors (EINV)
[06:52] <BBB_> G_PARM? why?
[06:52] <BBB_> that's only for read()
[06:53] <BBB_> read the link I just gave you, and read through how to set up capture
[06:53] <BBB_> really
[06:53] <BBB_> if you want, take a look at the gstreamer code
[06:53] <BBB_> though that's somewhat more complicated then the examples
[06:54] <taupter> I looked the NVrec code, xawtv code, tvtime code, but there's a lot of cruft that's very difficult to dig.
[06:56] <BBB_> read through the link I just gave you
[06:56] <BBB_> read that chapter
[06:56] <BBB_> read the previous chapters
[06:57] <taupter> To be more to the point, I need to select an input, get a frame, select another input, get a frame and so on...
[06:57] <BBB_> and again, turn on debugging in your driver of your card
[06:57] <BBB_> and see with 'dmesg' why it's returning EINVAL
[06:57] <taupter> I don't know if I can use stream mode this way...
[06:58] <BBB_> oh
[06:58] <BBB_> give it uop
[06:58] <BBB_> that's not possible
[06:58] <BBB_> not at 30 fps
[06:58] <BBB_> :)
[06:58] <BBB_> that's been discussed for a zillion times on the v4l list
[06:58] <BBB_> 10fps is even a lot
[06:58] <BBB_> most people get only 7-8 fps
[06:58] <BBB_> the chip that you're using is *not* capable of 30fps at multi-input capture
[06:59] <thaytoo> my card takes a good fraction of a second to change channels
[06:59] <BBB_> simply because it has to resync on the input for every input switch
[06:59] <BBB_> thaytoo: that's probably tuner input
[06:59] <BBB_> we're talking stable composite/svideo input here
[06:59] <taupter> Well, I want to get 30fps for all inputs, if I have 4 inputs I'm satisfied with 7fps orf each input...
[07:00] <BBB_> taupter: not possible
[07:00] <BBB_> you can have 7fps in total
[07:00] <BBB_> so 2fps per input
[07:00] <BBB_> it's hardware-matically not possible
[07:00] <thaytoo> BBB_: no, I mean switching tuner to composite input takes several frames to resync
[07:00] <BBB_> oh
[07:00] <BBB_> that's quite long
[07:00] <BBB_> should be shorter
[07:00] <BBB_> what card?
[07:00] <thaytoo> the cheapest bt878 in existence
[07:01] <BBB_> heh
[07:01] <BBB_> bt878 is ok...
[07:01] <BBB_> not perfect, but ok
[07:01] <taupter> UCC4 4 composite inputs.
[07:03] <taupter> Well, I changed my code here (already based on the mmap code)
[07:03] <taupter> to use just one input.
[07:03] <taupter> With read() I just get 10fps.
[07:04] <taupter> When I use mmap I get dark frames
[07:05] <taupter> (supposing buffers[i].start is the pointer to the frame)
[07:05] <BBB_> no
[07:05] <BBB_> the return value of mmap() is the frame
[07:06] <taupter> buffers[i].start = mmap (NULL, buffer.length,...
[07:06] <BBB_> oh, in the example code
[07:06] <BBB_> yes
[07:06] <taupter>  if (buffers[i].start == MAP_FAILED) {
[07:07] <taupter> I suppose MAP_FAILED=NULL, right?
[07:07] <BBB_> no
[07:07] <BBB_> it's -1 :)
[07:07] <BBB_> (size_t) -1, even
[07:07] <BBB_> so (unsigned long) -1
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[07:14] <taupter> I'm using a card with the BT879HK chip
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[07:15] <taupter> And the card has 4 inputs
[07:15] <taupter> And the windows app can grab 7fps from each input.
[07:15] <taupter> (Pico2000 bundle)
[07:15] <taupter> Maybe this card has a slightly different chip that can do it or am I wrong?
[07:21] <BBB_> the bt878 driver is programmed for stable sync, and then it can't do it
[07:21] <BBB_> the win32 driver might not sync at all, then it's possible
[07:21] <BBB_> there've been patches floating around on the bt878 mailinglist several months ago to do that
[07:21] <BBB_> but you'd have to look those up yourself
[07:21] <BBB_> naywya
[07:21] <BBB_> bedtime for mem
[07:21] <BBB_> bye!
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[09:45] <psm> hi
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[10:14] <markey> hmm gst-plugins won't find my libvorbis
[10:14] <markey> ./configure, that is
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[10:21] <Company> good morning angels
[10:24] <markey> hey Company 
[10:24] <markey> Company: gst-plugin ./configure won't find my libvorbis
[10:24] <markey> any idea?
[10:25] <markey> configure check must be a bit weird
[10:26] <Company> markey: i think it uses pkgconfig, doesn't it?
[10:27] <markey> does it? hmm guess I need to look @ configure.in.in
[10:27] <Company> hm, no it doesn't
[10:28] <Company> it uses the default XIPH_PATH_VORBIS
[10:29] <markey> config.log is my friend
[10:29] <Company> you're onm Linux?
[10:29] <markey> let's see
[10:29] <markey> yup
[10:29] <markey> hmm it looks in ogg/
[10:29] <markey> I don't have that dir
[10:33] <markey> ah
[10:33] <markey> my bad 
[10:33] <markey> ogg headers missing
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[11:13] <Company> yay i got gst-ffmpeg to compile :/
[11:16] <Company> yay, gst-player sucks :o
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[11:23] Action: markey trying to get amarok's gst support into good shape
[11:23] <Company> do you use gst 0.6 or 0.7
[11:23] <Company> ?
[11:25] <markey> I've just built 0.7.6
[11:25] <Company> good
[11:25] <markey> 0.7.3 didn't work too well for me
[11:25] <Company> that's "way old" (nearly 3 months)
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[11:28] <markey> yup
[11:28] <markey> will be exiting to see which engine works best after all
[11:28] <markey> ARTS, GST or NMM
[11:29] <markey> maybe we'll make a MAS engine sometime, too
[11:29] <Company> i'm more interested in knowing which engine is easiest to program
[11:30] <Company> or program against
[11:30] <markey> they're all pretty complicated IMHO
[11:30] <markey> API-wise, GST may be the easiest
[11:30] <markey> but
[11:30] <markey> for a KDE c++ hacker, that c/glib stuff is pretty arcane..
[11:30] <markey> that's the trouble
[11:31] <Company> well, when coding an app API, that should be pretty much hidden
[11:31] <markey> callbacks don't make it easier..
[11:31] <Company> it should be justs structs and functions
[11:31] <Company> ah yes, and callbacks :)
[11:32] <markey> it's not really hidde, tho ;)
[11:32] <markey> +n
[11:35] <Company> gstreamer will certainly not excel in the stability department right now
[11:35] <Company> api is fixed, stability is not ;)
[11:36] <markey> IMHO it's crucial to get at least the basic stuff stable
[11:36] <markey> e.g. seeking 
[11:36] <markey> let's see how 0.7.6 performs
[11:36] <Company> if seeking were that basic ;/
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[11:37] <Company> i like to compare gstreamers internals to a river - now imagine if god wanted to implemente seeking on a river...
[11:38] <thaytoo> he'd um... build a boat!
[11:38] <thaytoo> with a motor
[11:38] <markey> dealing with that level of complexity is not easy :)
[11:38] <Company> uhm no - seeking the water
[11:39] <thaytoo> I have no idea
[11:40] <thaytoo> but if I was seeking water, a river is a good place to look
[11:40] <thaytoo> ;)
[11:40] <Company> :p
[11:40] <Company> it doesn't help that most of the time, only playback pipelines are seekable
[11:41] <Company> anybody thought about implementing seeking in a muxer?
[11:43] <Company> somebody with enough spare cpu time can do me a favour and cvs up gst-plugins, rebuilt and tell me if the gstreamer-gconf pkgconfig files get built correctly
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[11:51] <markey> (process:26316): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for `filesrc' has no type
[11:51] <markey> what could that mean?
[11:51] <markey> I'm getting a bunch of critical errors
[11:52] <markey> then it exits
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[11:54] <Company> most of the time it's a registry problem
[11:54] <Company> running gst-register helps
[11:55] <markey> I've run gst-register as user
[11:55] <markey> that ok?
[11:55] <Company> or it might be an issue with a user's registry clashing with the system registry
[11:55] <markey> hmm
[11:55] <Company> i have no clue in that area though
[11:55] <markey> I had removed all of the old 0.7.3 crud before 
[11:55] <Company> i always run gst-register as root...
[11:55] <markey> ok
[11:57] <Company> i don't think i even have a user registry
[11:57] <markey> didn't help
[11:57] <markey> it started behaving weird after I converted my engine to a loadable module
[11:57] <markey> plugin
[11:59] <Company> that shouldn'T be a problem - at least in theory
[12:00] <Company> i don't think anybody ever did this though
[12:00] <thaytoo> :wq
[12:00] <thaytoo> heh
[12:00] <markey> :P
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[12:13] <Company> yay, gst-player is broken
[12:17] <markey> gnaaa somethings's really wrong here
[12:19] <Company> deleted user's registry and ran gst-register as root?
[12:20] <markey> where is it located?
[12:20] <markey> yes I ran it as root
[12:20] <markey> I'm suspecting the problem is really somewhere else
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[12:20] <markey> not sure tho
[12:21] <markey> after installing gst & gst-plugins, I just need to run gst-register, right?
[12:25] <markey> |** (process:7196): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?
[12:25] <markey> |
[12:25] <markey> |(process:7196): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstscheduler.c: line 886 (gst_scheduler_factory_create): assertion `factory->type != 0' failed
[12:25] <markey> that's what I'm getting now
[12:26] <Company> that happens when it doesn't find the file listed in the registry
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[12:26] <thomasvs> the first error happens when trying to register a plugins that's already registered, no ?
[12:27] <Company> but as i said: no idea where it looks :)
[12:27] <thomasvs> markey: check if it's loading the same .so filename twice in different paths
[12:29] <Company> that most likely happens when there's two registries referencing the same .so
[12:30] <Company> which sounds a lot like that error message is not very descriptive ;)
[12:30] <Company> two .so's with the same name result in the same error
[12:31] <markey> let's face it: GST hates me :)
[12:31] <Company> hm no, not really
[12:31] <markey> I've never had much luck with it
[12:31] <Company> markey: export GST_DEBUG=GST_PLUGIN*:5
[12:31] <markey> make built-in KDE-hacker protection ;)
[12:32] <markey> that produced some debug info
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[12:34] <markey> |EBUG GST_PLUGIN_LOADING( 7246) gstpluginfeature.c(101):gst_plugin_feature_ensure_loaded: loading plugin gstoptscheduler for feature
[12:34] <markey> |DEBUG GST_PLUGIN_LOADING( 7246) gstplugin.c(293):gst_plugin_load_file: attempt to load plugin "/usr/local/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstoptscheduler.so"
[12:34] <markey> |DEBUG GST_PLUGIN_LOADING( 7246) gstplugin.c(390):gst_plugin_load_file: Error loading plugin /usr/local/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstoptscheduler.so, reason: /usr/local/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstoptscheduler.so: undefined symbol: _gst_bin_type
[12:35] <thomasvs> markey: did you recompile core and plugins recently after updating ?
[12:35] <Company> markey: that sounds like it doesn't find the libgstreamer symbols
[12:35] <markey> built & installed gst-0.7.6 and gst-plugins-0.7.6
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[12:35] <markey> hmm
[12:36] <Company> markey: the plugins aren'T linked against libgstreamer
[12:38] Nick change: apoc_ -> apoc
[12:38] <apoc> hi
[12:39] <apoc> Company: Have you received my mail about modplug and alsasink ?
[12:41] <Company> apoc: haven't checked mail for a while
[12:43] <apoc> Company : I have a mod file that plays to fast with alsasink but not with osssink (with modplug)
[12:44] <apoc> Company: I added this mod to the mail
[12:46] <Company> apoc: yeah, got it - i'll check that
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[12:47] <apoc> Company: ok thx
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[13:20] <Uraeus> ello
[13:20] <apoc> Hey Uraeus
[13:21] <Uraeus> hi apoc
[13:21] <thaytan> hi Uraeus
[13:21] <Uraeus> and hi thaytan
[13:21] <Uraeus> apoc: did you manage to sort of the wma issue yesterday?
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[13:24] <LeRoutier> hell o
[13:26] <Uraeus> hi LeRoutier
[13:26] <apoc> Uraeus: no ... do you have the same problem ?
[13:26] <apoc> LeRoutier: Salut 
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[13:29] <Uraeus> apoc: my installation is broken atm so I can't test :(
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[13:30] <Uraeus> morning teuf
[13:30] <teuf> hi
[13:30] <Uraeus> thomasvs: around? 
[13:31] <thomasvs> Uraeus: a bit
[13:34] <LeRoutier> thaytan, are you around ?
[13:34] <thaytan> hiya
[13:35] <Uraeus> thomasvs: I saw that someone else than me seems to have issues with the gconf schemas. The other bug report said it was due to the use of a . in the schema name? seen it?
[13:35] Nick change: markey -> markey|afk
[13:36] <thomasvs> Uraeus: yeah, been trying to get hold of someone who can tell me if this really can be the cause
[13:36] <LeRoutier> because of the locale problem ? (decimal separator beeing a coma for me)
[13:36] <thomasvs> no, shouldn't matter
[13:36] <thomasvs> versioning is not done using commas :)
[13:38] <Uraeus> thomasvs: I think he meant that depending on locale what is used for decimal and 1000 separator is switched between , and .
[13:39] Action: Uraeus shudders at the thought of all the customers he have had to help with database and applications issues due to that
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[13:40] <thomasvs> Uraeus: I know that he meant that.  What I'm saying is, version numbers aren't localized
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[13:43] <thaytan> hi thomasvs
[13:43] <thomasvs> morning/evening
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[13:50] <Company> apoc: the playback issue is due to timestamps - modplug sends totally bogus timestamps
[13:51] Action: Company fixes
[13:53] Action: thomasvs is going to disable mmx in ffmpeg again
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[14:04] <alley_cat> why disable mmx? that finally made it possible to play several files i have on my system
[14:05] <LeRoutier> alley_cat, asm related compilation problems for some people
[14:05] <LeRoutier> alley_cat, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136658 for example
[14:05] <thomasvs> alley_cat: huh ? you're saying you have files you cannot play with mmx disabled ?
[14:05] <alley_cat> then make it an option that's disabled by default, but please don't remove it completely
[14:05] <alley_cat> thomasvs: a lot, all files with xvid4 packed bitstream
[14:06] <alley_cat> thomasvs: xviddec totally borks with those files, and ffdec_mpeg4 without mmx is too slow
[14:06] <thomasvs> alley_cat: well, if someone wants to make it an option, that's fine by me.
[14:06] <thomasvs> alley_cat: I just don't have time to do so right now, we are supposed to release tomorrow
[14:06] <alley_cat> and quite some with normal xvid 1.0 video
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[14:08] <TD> is libgstplay documented anywhere and does it work with the latest gstreamer?
[14:10] <Company> it has gtk-doc style comments, but noone has setup gtk-doc for gst-plugins yet
[14:10] <Company> (afaik)
[14:10] <Company> and since it's part of gst-plugins, it's supposed to work
[14:11] <TD> hmm - libgstplay is a high level convenience API right? not a plugin
[14:11] <TD> i'm talking about the lib that lets you do
[14:11] <Company> yeah
[14:11] <TD> gst_play("somefile.ogg")
[14:11] <TD> why is it in gst-plugins then?
[14:12] <Company> because someone decided that anything should go in gst-plugins some day :/
[14:12] <TD> :(
[14:12] <Company> apoc: should work now
[14:12] <Uraeus> TD: simply because we don't have any gst-libs package and we didn't want any code with extra deps in the core
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[14:13] <TD> what does libgstplay depend on then?
[14:13] <TD> other than gstreamer?
[14:13] <Company> some plugins
[14:13] <Company> so nothing really
[14:14] <TD> ok
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[14:14] <Company> it might even depend on gst-ffmpeg right now because it uses ffcolorspace
[14:14] <Company> though that's not really a depedency since it compiles and runs - it just doesn't work ;)
[14:15] <TD> what i'd really like to see is a GstGenericOutput plugin which reads the output pipeline from xsettings or an environment variable, so it's desktop-neutral (and it can be silently replaced with the gconf plugin if running gnome) and then a convenience lib that makes it all transparent
[14:15] <alley_cat> hmm, totem fullscreen mode still doesn't zoom
[14:15] <TD> so OSS users have one pipeline, ALSA users have another, esound users another and arts users another etc
[14:15] <TD> then if you want to play a sound or whatever, all the magic is hidden behind one function call
[14:15] <TD> that just does filesrc | spider | genericoutput
[14:16] <Company> nobody has yet written an autoplugger for sinks
[14:16] <TD> and it's now feasible for apps to get access to an automatically configured, just works audio backend with dlopen/dlsym
[14:17] <Company> oh my god
[14:18] <Company> the gstreamer header files look like ass now
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[14:19] <Company> we definitely shouldn't have indented them, it's impossible to find anything in there
[14:36] <Company> whoops
[14:36] <Company> rm != mv :/
[14:37] <apoc> Company: ok mod files play fine now :)
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[14:38] <apoc> Company: the last issue i have is wma with opt. It plays fine with basicomega or basicgsthread 
[14:38] <apoc> Hi teuf_
[14:38] <teuf_> re
[14:38] <apoc> Company: ** ERROR **: file gstoptimalscheduler.c: line 723 (destroy_group): assertion failed: (group->group_links == NULL)
[14:39] <alley_cat> apoc: when running gst-player or totem with opt?
[14:39] <alley_cat> that's what i get here
[14:39] <apoc> alley_cat: no just gst-launch with a wma file
[14:39] <Uraeus> to bad opt hacker jdahlin isn't here atm
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[14:40] <alley_cat> oh, i don't have any wma files
[14:40] <alley_cat> only wmv, and those don't play at all
[14:40] <apoc> did you try play the audio part of your wmv files ?
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[14:42] <alley_cat> that works
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[14:43] <apoc> alley_cat: with opt ?
[14:44] <alley_cat> apoc: yes, all others are borked for me
[14:44] <alley_cat> basicgthread works for some pipelines, totally breaks for others, *omega never worked here
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[14:52] <LeRoutier> bbl
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[15:20] <Uraeus> hi jdahlin
[15:20] <jdahlin> hi Uraeus
[15:21] <Uraeus> jdahlin: apoc has some opt issues in regards to opt
[15:21] <Uraeus> err 
[15:21] <Uraeus> in regards to wma :)
[15:21] <jdahlin> Uraeus, hmm
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[15:21] <jdahlin> I don´t have an internet connection at home, so I can´t really do any work in the weekends 
[15:22] <jdahlin> Uraeus, bug reports rocks
[15:22] <jdahlin> bugzilla is very persistent you know :)
[15:23] Action: Uraeus pokes apoc
[15:24] <Uraeus> jdahlin: get appartment close to World trade center, then you can use the wireless access at work :)
[15:24] <Uraeus> from home I mean :)
[15:24] <jdahlin> Uraeus, ;)
[15:25] <jdahlin> I haven´t even got my wireless working yet!
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[16:46] <Uraeus> hi dolphy
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[16:47] <dolphy> yop
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[16:48] <Uraeus> dolphy: ah, not to many months now and I go on the holiday of my life :)
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[17:00] <alley_cat> hmm, gstreamer-properties seems to not like complex audiosinks
[17:00] <alley_cat> ** (gstreamer-properties:13794): WARNING **: Unrecoverable syntax error while parsing pipeline
[17:02] <thomasvs> alley_cat: what is the pipeline ?
[17:02] <alley_cat> audioscale ! audio/x-raw-int,rate=48000 ! alsasink device=dsp1
[17:03] <Uraeus> alley_cat: think you have a ! to many (after audioscale)
[17:03] <alley_cat> no
[17:04] <alley_cat> hmm, it's not related to that pipeline anyway, i get the error with a plain alsasink too
[17:05] <thomasvs> alley_cat: hm, then we'd want a debug log or something to check what happens
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[17:11] <alley_cat> happens in the aasink pipeline parsing
[17:12] <alley_cat> is a log generate with GST_DEBUG=GST_PIPELINE:5 enough?
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[17:20] <thomasvs> no, *:5
[17:20] <thomasvs> alley_cat: hm - an audiosink pipeline giving errors in aasink ?
[17:20] <thomasvs> what is your videosink set to ?
[17:20] <alley_cat> i didn't say audiosink, i thought it was my audiosink pipeline that's giving the error, but it wasn't
[17:20] <alley_cat> xvimagesink
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[17:23] <alley_cat> hmm, there's no component in bugzilla for gstreamer-properties in gnome-media
[17:26] <alley_cat> bug 137161
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[20:37] <teuf> thomasvs: I hate you, I'll end up buying cds again because of your last blog entries
[20:40] <thomasvs> teuf: hehe, sorry :)
[20:41] <teuf> thomasvs: I'll accept your apologies if you pay for them ;)
[20:41] <thomasvs> teuf: hehe, no chance :) you are a free man with your own will
[20:41] <thomasvs> RESIST the urge to buy stuff
[20:42] <teuf> I'm pretty sure I'll end up buying radiohead, spiritualized and weezer one day or the other
[20:42] <teuf> hmm, spiritualized seems especially tempting from your description ;)
[20:44] <thomasvs> well, spiritualized is weird, takes some time to get into.  but very rewarding.
[20:45] Action: Uraeus thinks thomas buys a lot of weird music :)
[20:45] <teuf> I saw it mentioned in a booklet about pink floyd from the fnac, and I have been buying most of the cds from it to see what they sound like
[20:45] <teuf> until now, most of them were pretty good
[20:47] <thomasvs> Uraeus: well, given the fact that you only own albums that sold more than 5 million copies, everything you don't have is weird :)
[20:47] <thomasvs> teuf: which, for example ?
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[20:47] <thomasvs> Uraeus: I guess it's the difference between eating because you want to live and eating because you like the taste of food
[20:47] <teuf> thomasvs: there was radiohead/ok computer and air/the virgin suicide
[20:47] <thomasvs> Uraeus: which also is the difference between eating meatballs and paella, for example :)
[20:47] <teuf> my bloody valentine, the flaming lips
[20:48] <thomasvs> mbv is pretty good.
[20:48] <thomasvs> weird though.
[20:48] <teuf> yeah, mbv rocks ;)
[20:48] <teuf> I need to listen it with earphones though
[20:48] <thomasvs> the virgin suicides, I don't like terribly much.  not sure how good it sounds to someone who hasn't seen the movie either.
[20:48] <thomasvs> teuf: also, mbv sounds like everything is played slightly behind the beat
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[20:48] <thomasvs> there's something that sounds like it's lagging, but it's hard to say what :)
[20:48] <teuf> I guess it's on purpose ;)
[20:49] <teuf> virgin suicides is one of the best air albums imo
[20:49] <Uraeus> thomasvs: meatballs rock :)
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[21:23] <BBB> yay! dolphy is back
[21:23] <BBB> dolphy: please make totem use basicgthread :)
[21:23] <BBB> otherwise, almost all my movies seem to play right now
[21:24] <BBB> just quicktime/mpeg4video fails... something tricky inside ffmpeg that I'm still looking into
[21:24] <BBB> (one of those trailers)
[21:26] <BBB> ds: did you look at the sound issue from yesterday?
[21:26] <BBB> something odd in qtdemux, it pushes out 0byte sound buffers
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[21:43] <thomasvs> don't swith to gthread
[21:43] <thomasvs> fix the problems
[21:44] <BBB> like I told jdahlin: sure, but that'll take me ages
[21:44] <BBB> I don't *want* to implement internal queues in demuxers
[21:44] <BBB> that's insane
[21:44] <BBB> too much work
[21:44] <BBB> so we need to fix spider
[21:44] <BBB> which will take ages
[21:44] <BBB> I don't care what we do as a solution for 0.9.x
[21:44] <BBB> but for 0.8.0, just switch
[21:45] <BBB> didn't we want a working release?
[21:45] <thomasvs> yeah, but we're not going to switch the scheduler at the latest minute
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[21:45] <thomasvs> esp. not if we're switching back to what we switched away from last time around
[21:45] <thomasvs> opt has had a lot of testing on a lot of pipelines
[21:45] <thomasvs> basicgthread has had zero of it
[21:46] <BBB> not really, since I've been using basicgthread only lately
[21:46] <BBB> like company
[21:46] <BBB> and we didn't switch from basicgthread last time
[21:46] <BBB> we switched from basicomega
[21:46] <BBB> I told this friday, too
[21:46] <BBB> anyway
[21:46] <BBB> ship with opt if you wish
[21:46] <BBB> but it *doesn't work*
[21:46] <BBB> it'll cripple totem for MPEG movies
[21:47] <BBB> I'm just telling you what bug reports we'll get
[21:47] <thomasvs> well, too bad.  it should have been switched earlier.
[21:47] <thomasvs> we have to learn how to do proper release scheduling someday
[21:47] <thomasvs> everyone knew that MPEG was going to be broken
[21:47] <thomasvs> it already works better than expected
[21:47] <thomasvs> (ie, I *still* haven't seen any of the problems you have)
[21:48] <thomasvs> (that doesn't mean I don't believe they're there)
[21:48] <BBB> that's because I fixed many of them
[21:48] <BBB> didn't you notice I've been doing commits on all sort of playback related material lately?
[21:49] <BBB> that's *on purpose*
[21:49] <BBB> because I *know* that people will say gstreamer sucks if I Don't
[21:49] <thomasvs> yeah, I know, and I agree
[21:49] <BBB> pretty much all my movies play when using basicgthread right now
[21:49] <BBB> except two small quicktime issues that I'm tracking down right now
[21:49] <thomasvs> that doesn't make it the right thing to switch the scheduler at the very last minute
[21:49] <BBB> we can switch in totem only
[21:49] <thomasvs> if you did it last week, before the latest prerel, then ok.
[21:49] <BBB> gst_set_scheduler("basicgthread");
[21:50] <thomasvs> that's even worse
[21:50] <thomasvs> sigh
[21:50] <BBB> I know, but it fixes totem
[21:50] <BBB> I know it's bad
[21:50] <BBB> I just told you
[21:50] Action: thomasvs wonders why we keep shooting ourselves in the foot
[21:50] <BBB> but it *fixes it*
[21:50] <thomasvs> totem works here, and for others too
[21:50] <thomasvs> nobody has the problems you currently have
[21:50] <thomasvs> that doesn't mean they don't exist
[21:50] <BBB> I'll upload some MPEGs that fail locally tonight
[21:50] <thomasvs> it just means "it could be something specific to your setup"
[21:51] Action: BBB kicks his stupid laptop that doesn't want to connect to internet at the university
[22:00] <BBB> btw
[22:00] <BBB> do we have anya rchive of "exotic" movie formats?
[22:01] <BBB> I'd love to test all formats supported by ffmpeg
[22:01] <Company> BBB: try mplayers repo
[22:01] <BBB> their ftp is writeonly :P
[22:01] <BBB> I tried that ;)
[22:01] <BBB> or did I look at the wrong place?
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[22:17] <BBB> bbl
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[22:19] <dany> Hi, I'm trying to convert an avi file to araw stream with the following cmd: "gst-launch filesrc location=foo.avi ! avidemux video_%02d\!src \{ queue ! filesink location=/tmp/foo.raw \}"
[22:20] <dany> the problem is gst-launch seems to be blocked in an infinite loop, does anybody have an idea about the problem ?
[22:23] <Uraeus> dany: think BBB the right person for this question, but he is not online atm :(
[22:27] <dany> Uraeus, ok thanks
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[23:25] <BBB> thomasvs: need an example movie?
[23:26] <thomasvs> BBB: sure, why not
[23:26] <thomasvs> BBB: have you tried with our sample movies ?
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[23:26] <BBB_> oh, btw, can anyone reproduce the g_error() I get when starting totem with opt and current CVS?
[23:26] Action: BBB_ kicks connection
[23:26] <thomasvs> can't, busy compiling mplayer :)
[23:27] Action: BBB_ searches the ban button
[23:28] <foser> BBB : /ban  ;)
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[23:29] <BBB_> thomasvs: if you would just do what I've been doing for the past few weeks, we might actually support more formats than mplayer
[23:29] <BBB_> I've wrapped ffmpeg and can pretty much play anything in theory
[23:29] <BBB_> (wrapped -> rewrapped)
[23:30] <BBB_> I've included all demuxers and decoders now, I have a total of 170 features in the ffmpeg plugin
[23:30] <BBB_> so I want sample movies for all those weird formats
[23:30] <BBB_> so I can test them, fix obvious bugs
[23:30] <BBB_> and we can say that we support more than mplayer
[23:31] <thomasvs> BBB_: I use mplayer because it supports directfb
[23:31] <thomasvs> as well as has output drivers for hardware doing tv/out properly
[23:31] <thomasvs> ie, no tearing
[23:33] <BBB_> btw, the divx indent test
[23:33] <BBB_> that doesn't look good
[23:34] <TD> thomasvs: did you see Companys problems with indent earlier?
[23:35] <bluejay> Where is totem CVS? http://www.hadess.net/totem.php3 doesn't seem to have a link.
[23:35] <thomasvs> TD: which one ?
[23:36] Action: thomasvs is catching up on mail
[23:36] <TD> something about headers being messed up by it
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[23:36] <thomasvs> ah - hm
[23:36] <thomasvs> ok, messed up in the sense that the decls don't align as before ?
[23:37] <thomasvs> well, that's to be expected when running ident, no ?
[23:37] <thomasvs> Company: there ?
[23:37] <BBB_> also that divx seems to have an indent of 4 spaces in several places
[23:37] <BBB_> bluejay: gnome CVS, module 'totem'
[23:37] <bluejay> BBB_: thx
[23:37] <thomasvs> BBB_: that bit is still committing, so I'm sure that's not the end result yet
[23:38] Action: thomasvs has been waiting about 15 minutes for cvs commit to complete on the plugins
[23:38] <BBB_> thomasvs: I see the test commit on the gst-cvs ml
[23:38] <BBB_> -  return gst_element_register(plugin, "divxenc",
[23:38] <BBB_> -                             GST_RANK_PRIMARY, GST_TYPE_DIVXENC);
[23:38] <BBB_> +  return gst_element_register (plugin, "divxenc",
[23:38] <BBB_> +      GST_RANK_PRIMARY, GST_TYPE_DIVXENC);
[23:38] <BBB_> I don't like the fact that it indents the second line only 4 spaces more than the first
[23:38] <thomasvs> BBB_: ah, no, that's correct.
[23:38] <BBB_> it should align on functions
[23:39] <thomasvs> well, not necessarily - makes it harder to break
[23:39] <thomasvs> anyway, I just used what ds has posted, and nobody else seemed to care much
[23:39] Action: BBB_ hopes to see the end result soon
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[23:39] <thomasvs> BBB_: the core is already done, so check htere
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[23:41] <BBB_> k
[23:41] Action: BBB_ cvs updates and hopes it doesn't break completely
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[23:44] <BBB_> thomasvs: do you get g_error using totem and latest gst cvs?
[23:44] <BBB_> in opt?
[23:45] <BBB_> or am I - again - the only one?
[23:49] <bluejay> :( totem CVS requires gtk+2.3
[23:52] <BBB_> yes
[23:55] <Company> thomasvs: pong
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[23:58] <thomasvs> Company: is the problem with the headers just that the decls aren't lined up anymore ?
[23:59] Action: thomasvs kicks directfb again
[00:00] --- Mon Mar 15 2004
[00:00] <Company> thomasvs: yeah
[00:00] <Company> thomasvs: it's very hard to extract information this way
[00:05] <thomasvs> hm - well there's no way to fit it into 80 chars else
[00:06] <thomasvs> I just went with what david gave me.
[00:06] <thomasvs> (and personally I think it's a matter of being used to it, but I don't care either way)
[00:07] <Company> i can live with it
[00:07] <Company> but i prefer headers indented like before
[00:08] <thomasvs> well, figure out the right indent option, mail it to the list
[00:09] <Company> there's no indent option for thatz
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[00:18] <BBB_> thomasvs: commit done?
[00:18] <dilinger> so 0.8.0 tomorrow?
[00:18] <BBB_> I guess
[00:19] <thomasvs> if all goes well
[00:19] <thomasvs> still some loose ends to check up on
[00:19] <BBB_> most stuff works
[00:19] <BBB_> I need ds to fix a qt issue for me
[00:19] <BBB_> I found the source but don't know how to fix it
[00:19] <BBB_> don't kn ow enough quicktime magic
[00:20] <BBB_> thomasvs: again, commit done? I want to update && test :)
[00:20] <BBB_> core compiles well
[00:20] <thomasvs> Company: uh, what did you do with the pkg-config gconf stuff ? and more importantly, why ?
[00:20] Action: BBB_ doesn't like the headers either
[00:20] <BBB_> gboolean gst_element_implements_interface (GstElement * element,
[00:20] <BBB_>     GType iface_type);
[00:20] <BBB_> .. :(
[00:21] Action: thomasvs had decided to be totally neutral wrt. indentation discussions anyway, so as to not get flamed
[00:24] <BBB_> :)
[00:24] <BBB_> we should use -lp
[00:24] <BBB_> anyone disagree?
[00:24] <BBB_>               p1 = first_procedure (second_procedure (p2, p3),
[00:24] <BBB_>                  third_procedure (p4, p5));
[00:24] <BBB_>                                                                                 
[00:24] <BBB_>        With `-lp´ in effect the code looks somewhat clearer:
[00:24] <BBB_>                                                                                 
[00:24] <BBB_>               p1 = first_procedure (second_procedure (p2, p3),
[00:24] <BBB_>                                     third_procedure (p4, p5));
[00:24] <thomasvs> a good reason for not doing that is "because we want =< 80 chars per line"
[00:24] <thomasvs> but anyway, mail the list with specifics
[00:25] <thomasvs> I don't get why you decide to look into it now :)
[00:25] <BBB_> at least for function declarations, -lp is an absolute requirement
[00:25] <BBB_> thomasvs: ^#&@&@@ because I had more important stuff?
[00:25] <thomasvs> I don't think it matters. consistency matters. but I don't care anyway.
[00:25] <BBB_> I don't care about comments if totem can't even play back simple AVI/divx files
[00:25] <BBB_> does that sound reasonable?
[00:26] <thomasvs> All I want is that it is machine-doable so that we don't have to think about it
[00:26] <thomasvs> sure :)
[00:26] Action: thomasvs plays matrix.avi again with totem :)
[00:26] <BBB_> so indent.pro is our current style?
[00:26] <thomasvs> nope
[00:26] <thomasvs> I have to change that file
[00:26] <BBB_> matrix.avi plays here :)
[00:26] <thomasvs> or remove it, rather
[00:26] <BBB_> please do
[00:27] <thomasvs> gst-indent indents as our current style
[00:29] <mathrick> nite
[00:29] <BBB_> better...
[00:29] <BBB_> gboolean gst_element_implements_interface (GstElement * element,
[00:29] <BBB_>                                            GType iface_type);
[00:29] <BBB_> gpointer gst_implements_interface_cast (gpointer from, GType type);
[00:29] <BBB_> gboolean gst_implements_interface_check (gpointer from, GType type);
[00:29] <BBB_> how do I make blocks of those?
[00:29] <BBB_> so they all indent at the same position?
[00:29] <BBB_>   GTypeInterface parent;
[00:29] <BBB_>                                                                                 
[00:29] <BBB_>   /* virtual functions */
[00:29] <BBB_>     gboolean (*supported) (GstImplementsInterface * iface, GType iface_type);
[00:29] <BBB_> and how do I correct the virtual function here?
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[00:32] <BBB_> thomasvs: please add --continue-at-parentheses
[00:32] <BBB_> that's -lp
[00:32] Action: Company 1 - 7 ISA NIC card
[00:32] <Company> please not
[00:33] <Company> -lp makes code extremely ugly when you have long function names
[00:33] <Company> and many arguments
[00:33] <BBB_> true... but without -lp, function declarations in header files are unreadable
[00:34] <Company> using -lp in headers is fine with me
[00:34] <BBB_> thomas is not gonna like us :)
[00:34] <thomasvs> BBB_: I repeat - a) I don't have strong opinions either way b) mail the list
[00:34] <Company> it should be reasonably easy to use different styles for headers and code files
[00:34] <thomasvs> BBB_: I suggest you do it fast and get ds to agree, I want to release soon
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[00:35] <Company> (though i didn't think about that :o)
[00:35] <thomasvs> yeah, it's easily doable
[00:35] <BBB_> ok..
[00:35] Action: BBB_ emails
[00:35] <thomasvs> just have to move a bunch of stuff around if we do though
[00:35] <thomasvs> but I can do that tomorrow morning
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[00:37] <pippin> does anyone have comments on a video editing/compositing definition format like this? http://freedesktop.org/~pippin/oxide/test3.xml
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[00:38] <BBB_> emailed
[00:40] <BBB_> please reply asap so we can get this done before thomasvs goes to bed
[00:40] <thomasvs> haha :)
[00:40] <thomasvs> I'm going to bed right now :)
[00:40] <BBB_> pippin: we currently have XML files in gstreamer... I supose that editing is possible using those
[00:40] <thomasvs> just get people to agree before tomorrow morning
[00:40] <BBB_> I'll be asleep then
[00:41] <BBB_> can I commit some ffmpeg fixes?
[00:41] <BBB_> they enable some more codec ids
[00:41] <BBB_> I think that's all I have right now
[00:41] <BBB_> and did gst-ffmpeg compile for you using the asm.diff patch rev-1.1 that I emailed you about?
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[00:42] <thomasvs> BBB_: no, not at all
[00:42] <thomasvs> BBB_: not with the 1.2 either
[00:42] <pippin> BBB_: I am currently using that xml format for very general stuff, but I have no idea if it could be mapped down to GST as well, which would be nice
[00:42] <thomasvs> BBB_: I'd like it fixed, but I have no idea how that asm stuff works
[00:43] <BBB_> neither do I
[00:43] <BBB_> what does commit-indent do?
[00:44] <BBB_> CVS Root:       /home/cvs/gstreamer
[00:44] <BBB_> Module:         gst-player
[00:44] <BBB_> Changes by:     thomasvs
[00:44] <BBB_> Date:           Sun Mar 14 2004  15:35:20 PST
[00:44] <BBB_> Log message:
[00:44] <BBB_> check for 0.8 too
[00:44] <BBB_> Modified files:
[00:44] <BBB_>     .               : ChangeLog configure.ac
[00:44] <BBB_> Links:
[00:44] <BBB_> http://freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gstreamer/gst-player/ChangeLog.diff?r1=1.63&r2=1.64
[00:44] <BBB_> http://freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gstreamer/gst-player/configure.ac.diff?r1=1.78&r2=1.79
[00:44] <BBB_> ====Begin Diffs====
[00:44] <BBB_> Index: ChangeLog
[00:44] <BBB_> ===================================================================
[00:44] <BBB_> RCS file: /home/cvs/gstreamer/gst-player/ChangeLog,v
[00:44] <BBB_> retrieving revision 1.63
[00:44] <BBB_> retrieving revision 1.64
[00:44] <BBB_> diff -u -d -r1.63 -r1.64
[00:45] <BBB_> --- a/ChangeLog 6 Mar 2004 01:54:07 -0000       1.63
[00:45] <BBB_> +++ b/ChangeLog 14 Mar 2004 23:35:08 -0000      1.64
[00:45] <thomasvs> BBB_: what the hell are you doing ? :)
[00:45] <BBB_> @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
[00:45] <BBB_> +2004-03-15  Thomas Vander Stichele  <thomas at apestaart dot org>
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[00:45] <BBB_> +
[00:45] <BBB_> +       * configure.ac: check for 0.8 as well
[00:45] <BBB_>  2004-03-05  David Schleef  <[email protected]>
[00:45] <BBB_>  
[00:45] <BBB_>         * Makefile.am:  Remove Mozilla plugin.  Moved to
[00:45] <BBB_> Index: configure.ac
[00:45] <BBB_> RCS file: /home/cvs/gstreamer/gst-player/configure.ac,v
[00:45] <BBB_> retrieving revision 1.78
[00:45] <BBB_> retrieving revision 1.79
[00:45] <BBB_> diff -u -d -r1.78 -r1.79
[00:45] <BBB_> --- a/configure.ac      6 Mar 2004 01:54:07 -0000       1.78
[00:45] <BBB_> +++ b/configure.ac      14 Mar 2004 23:35:08 -0000      1.79
[00:45] <BBB_> @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
[00:45] <BBB_>  HAVE_GSTREAMER=no
[00:45] <BBB_>  GST_REQS=0.7.0
[00:45] <BBB_> -dnl start with 0.7
[00:45] <BBB_> +dnl start with 0.8
[00:45] <BBB_>  GST_MAJORMINOR=0.7
[00:45] <BBB_> that doesn't help :)
[00:45] <BBB_> you need to set GST_MAJORMINOR to 0.8
[00:45] <BBB_> oh fuck
[00:45] <BBB_> I hate evolution c/p'ing
[00:45] <BBB_> sorry for the spam
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[00:46] <thomasvs> BBB_: you're a bit edgy tonight
[00:47] <BBB_> 'edgy'?
[00:48] <thomasvs> yeah, on the edge
[00:48] <thomasvs> stressed out ? triggerhappy ?
[00:48] <Company> apt-get-install gnome installs 540MB :o
[00:48] <BBB_> I guess I want 0.8.0 to be good and am stressed, yes
[00:49] <thomasvs> BBB_: It's too late, you can't leave the ship anymore 8)
[00:49] <BBB_> I can just type /quit and be gone ;)
[00:50] <thomasvs> if you do, I put only your name as the contributor for 0.8.0 :)
[00:50] Action: thomasvs wants to go to bed
[00:50] <Company> we should release stable releases more often
[00:50] <Company> people get into fixing frenzies then
[00:50] <thomasvs> heh, yeah :)
[00:50] <thomasvs> well, I hope to release slightly more often off of 0.8
[00:51] <thomasvs> everything's nicely decoupled now, so that should make it easier
[00:51] <BBB_> depents on the amount of fixes
[00:51] <BBB_> er...
[00:51] <BBB_> can I commit to gst-ffmpeg?
[00:51] <thomasvs> and doing an actual release is a lot less work now with the website setup and so on
[00:51] <BBB_> or is that dangerous?
[00:51] <thomasvs> dangerous ?
[00:51] <thomasvs> depends on what you commit :)
[00:52] <BBB_> enabling some new codecIDs
[00:52] <BBB_> so that we in theory support any ffmpeg format
[00:52] <thomasvs> yeah, but what are you commiting - a new patch, an addition to an existing patch, ...
[00:52] <BBB_> gstffmpegcodecmap.c fixes
[00:52] <thomasvs> if you're unsure how to do it, send me hte patch and I'll do it first thing tomorrow morning
[00:52] <BBB_> I'm not touching patches until after the release
[00:52] <thomasvs> BBB_: yep, but on a quilt level
[00:52] <thomasvs> eh ?
[00:52] <BBB_> nothing at all
[00:52] <thomasvs> it has to go in a patch
[00:53] <thomasvs> it can't go in otherwise
[00:53] <BBB_> it's a gst-ffmpeg patch
[00:53] <BBB_> not a ffmpeg patch
[00:53] <thomasvs> ah
[00:53] <thomasvs> right
[00:53] <thomasvs> yeah, sure, commit
[00:53] <BBB_> <BBB_> can I commit to gst-ffmpeg?
[00:53] <thomasvs> just make sure it doesn't break stuff :)
[00:53] <thomasvs> BBB_: ffmpeg is inside gst-ffmpeg
[00:53] Action: thomasvs wonders if there is a way to enforce indenting in gst-ffmpeg without having it indent the ffmpeg upstream code
[00:54] <BBB_> rm -fr ffmpeg
[00:54] <BBB_> indent
[00:54] <BBB_> ./autogen.sh
[00:54] <thomasvs> BBB_: I mean, the cvs commit hooks
[00:55] <BBB_> that's your speciality, not mine
[00:55] <BBB_> :)
[00:55] <BBB_> oh, and will you do gst-rec too? :)
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[01:05] <BBB_> thomasvs: some more
[01:05] <BBB_> did you get ffcsprip?
[01:05] <BBB_> do you still want a totem example movie?
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[01:06] <thomasvs> sure, still want them
[01:06] <thomasvs> still haven't told me if it works with alien or gravity
[01:06] <thomasvs> I'll do gst-rec too
[01:07] Action: BBB_ does DCC
[01:07] <BBB_> let me guess, doesn't work?
[01:08] <BBB_> how do I upload to the website?
[01:13] <thomasvs> just put it somewhere on your webspace
[01:13] <thomasvs> not on the site
[01:14] <BBB_> I don't have 50MB webspace
[01:15] Action: BBB_ does magic
[01:15] <BBB_> hm
[01:16] <BBB_> a one MB sample is at http://ronald.bitfreak.net/priv/metallica.mpg
[01:16] <BBB_> it's 10s, that's enough to reproduce
[01:18] <thomasvs> so, do alien and gravity work for you or not ?
[01:18] <BBB_> dunno... urrently, as I told you before, opt doesn't work at all
[01:18] <BBB_> it g_errors right on startup of totem
[01:19] <BBB_> I mailed the list about that
[01:19] <BBB_> and got no reply
[01:19] <BBB_> so apparently I'm the only one
[01:19] <thomasvs> d'oh, clicking that link opened the player plugin of gstreamer
[01:19] <BBB_> anyway, it means I cannot reproduce anything anymore because my only way of testing opt bugs is through basic
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[01:32] <thomasvs> BBB_: have you tried the player example in gst-plugins/examples/gstplay ?
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[01:33] <BBB_> I just told you
[01:33] <BBB_> I cannot reproduce it
[01:33] <BBB_> opt g_error()s for me
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[01:34] <thomasvs> yeah, my question is "do you also get it in that example binary"
[01:34] <thomasvs> night all
[01:34] <BBB_> I don't know
[01:34] <BBB_> and I cannot test it
[01:34] Action: BBB_ tries
[01:35] <BBB_> yes
[01:35] <BBB_> [rbultje@shrek src]$ ~/projects/gstreamer/gst-plugins/examples/gstplay/player /media/clips/Metallica\ -\ One.mpg
[01:35] <BBB_>                                                                                 
[01:35] <BBB_> ** ERROR **: internal error: cannot schedule get to loop in multi-loop based group
[01:35] <BBB_> aborting...
[01:35] <BBB_> Trace/breakpoint trap
[01:35] <BBB_> [rbultje@shrek src]$
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[01:35] <thaytoo> moaning, all
[01:37] <BBB_> anyway... /me gone
[01:37] <BBB_> I need food
[01:37] <BBB_> shall we make this a blocker?
[01:37] <BBB_> I'll be back tomorrow
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