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[03:28] <taaz> Company: that doc fix worked
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[03:30] <Company> taaz: great
[03:31] <taaz> Company: the mpeg2dec 0.4.0 fix could include plugin code changes to remove old support..  but i guess that can wait, no harm in leaving that there for now
[03:31] <Company> taaz: any other things that need fixage for Debian?
[03:31] <taaz> not yet ;)
[03:32] Action: Company wants gnome-2.6 to hit unstable :)
[03:32] <taaz> the docs build is still goofy
[03:33] <taaz> i really think that make then clean should leave things in the same state you started
[03:33] <taaz> as it is now a bunch of files get changed
[03:33] <Company> yeah
[03:33] <Company> that's annoying me, too
[03:34] <Company> IMO files that are in cvs should never be changed by any make target
[03:34] <Company> like make dist updating po files
[03:34] <taaz> i'd argue the same for tarball code.
[03:35] <taaz> ie, right now make clean will get rid of gstreamer.spec which is in the tarball
[03:35] <Company> agreed
[03:36] <Company> why does make clean delete that file?
[03:37] <taaz> 0.8.1-1 debs mostly done
[03:37] <taaz> still some rpath thing for libgstcontrol.  i don't understand why that happens
[03:38] <taaz> i dunno, i guess because it's generated from .spec.in
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[03:38] <Company> uhm, make clean doesn't delete Makefiles either, does it?
[03:39] <Company> and those are built from Makefile.in
[03:39] <taaz> maybe it's distclean
[03:40] <walters> clean deletes files created by make, distclean deletes files created by configure
[03:40] <Company> yeah, distclean should remove it, shouldn't it?
[03:40] <Company> it should
[03:40] <taaz> so who can tell me about rpath voodoo?
[03:40] <walters> info automake Clean
[03:41] Action: Company hates info
[03:41] <Company> i use devhelp :)
[03:41] Action: walters uses C-h i in emacs
[03:43] <Company> i prefer html renedered help files
[03:44] <Company> walters: rb's 0.7 branch is dead now, right?
[03:46] <walters> Company: yep
[03:50] <Company> i've been thinking about how to nicely do a cached backend
[03:50] <Company> but it's not nicely doable
[04:00] <taaz> the .la's are being built with a libdir= line with dir lib was built in
[04:00] <taaz> so you get output like this:
[04:01] <taaz> libtool cc `pkg-config --libs gstreamer-control-0.8` -o foo foo.c
[04:01] <taaz> *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is deprecated.
[04:01] <taaz> *** Future versions of Libtool will require -mode=MODE be specified.
[04:01] <taaz> libtool: link: warning: library `/usr/lib//libgstreamer-0.8.la' was moved.
[04:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[04:01] <taaz> and libgstcontrol has rpath info in it
[04:02] <taaz> ds suggested using chrpath to fix that but it would help with libgstreamer
[04:02] <taaz> this wasn't a problem before so i'm unsure what to do
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[04:40] <Company> taaz: doesn't glib have the same problem?
[04:40] <Company> taaz: or gtk?
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[05:27] <taaz> Company: no, i've got a guess at the problem.  on my todo list
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[05:30] <Company> i remember having seen that message elsewhere
[05:31] <Company> i think that was when i was still using LFS
[05:32] <taaz> i'm guessing it's due to the way i built the core debs.  the plugins don't have the same issue.  main difference is that CDBS is used for the plugins and custom ugly hacks for the core ;)
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[05:32] <Company> heh
[05:34] <taaz> i attempted a conversion at one point but failed.  but i think i know how to do it now.  wanted to get some other stuff done first though.  like upgrade player and editor and plugins and package ffmpeg too
[05:34] <spyder482> do mp3 frames have 0 samplerate in gstreamer?
[05:36] <Company> spyder482: huh?
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[05:38] <spyder482> BBB's matroska muxer creates files with a samplerate of 0 for the audio track
[05:38] <spyder482> but the code looks fine
[05:38] <spyder482> hmm, maybe it's because the mp3 is coming out of an avi...
[05:39] <Company> mp3s don't have a samplerate
[05:40] <spyder482> they have a decode samplerate
[05:40] <Company> they have a samplerate once they're decoded, yeah
[05:41] <Company> (though i'm still not sure if it's valid to just change that during decoding)
[05:42] <spyder482> what does the mpegaudio element do?
[05:42] <Company> gst-inspect it and read the description :)
[05:43] <spyder482> oh
[05:43] <spyder482> hmm
[05:43] <spyder482> isn't there a mpeg audio packetizer?
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[05:44] <spyder482> ah
[05:44] <spyder482> mpegaudioparse ;)
[05:45] <Company> ah right
[05:45] <Company> the BBB hack
[05:45] <Company> "we need a samplerate, so we just add it to the caps"
[05:46] <jdahlin> lo
[05:47] <spyder482> ok, the mp3parse element doesn't want to play nice
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[07:25] <taaz> hmm...
[07:25] <taaz> I thought API stability was a goal for 0.8.x?
[07:26] <taaz> oh well... just noticed plugins 0.8.1 doesn't compile against 0.8.0 due to at least GST_EVENT_ANY
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[07:42] <aldug> anyone seen this error compiling gst-plugins-0.8.1 before?
[07:42] <aldug> gstmpeg2dec.c: In function `gst_mpeg2dec_negotiate_format':
[07:42] <aldug> gstmpeg2dec.c:353: error: syntax error before '*' token
[07:43] <aldug> gstmpeg2dec.c:361: error: `sequence' undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:43] <aldug> 0.8.0 compiled fine, 0.8.1 doesn't compile
[07:45] <taaz> update to 0.4.0b
[07:46] <aldug> configure should check that then
[07:46] <taaz> it does in cvs now
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[07:56] <taaz> Setting up gstreamer0.8-x (0.8.1-1) ...
[07:56] <taaz> gst-compprep-0.8: relocation error: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstladspa.so: undefined symbol: DEBUG_OBJ
[07:56] <taaz> argh
[07:58] <taaz> hmm... that appears to be my crappy patch ;)
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[09:51] <tlg> is it me or alsasink is a real pain in the arse ?
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[11:57] <jmmv> hi
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[13:12] <tlg> I have some simple design questions about a plugin we did 
[13:12] <tlg> it is a smooth transition plugin
[13:13] <tlg> so it plays songs with a smooth transition that you can set (3sec is default)
[13:13] <tlg> but to do the transition, we intrecept the EOS, and instead of eos we send a signal
[13:14] <tlg> the signal means, it is time to change the source
[13:14] <tlg> ans that is where we change the source ;)
[13:14] <tlg> is it ok, to never have eos, while switching song
[13:38] Nick change: apoc__ -> apoc
[13:38] <apoc> tlg: how to you change the src ?
[13:52] <tlg> on the filesrc
[13:53] <apoc> tlg: how to do you do that inside the transition plugin ?
[13:54] <thomasvs> tlg: for transitions like that, it's probably better to just do it in the app, and use adder
[13:54] <tlg> thomasvs: may be
[13:54] <tlg> thomasvs: but it works fine that way
[13:55] <tlg> it is like a queue plugin but that mixes data comming after an eos
[13:55] <thomasvs> so what do you do if you need a ten second overlap ?
[13:55] <tlg> have to go for a sec, one of my window just blowes up !!!!
[13:56] <tlg> thomasvs: keeps ten secs in  buffer
[13:57] <thomasvs> tlg: but how do you now ?
[13:59] <tlg> for the ten seconds overlap ?
[13:59] <Makki_FT> he has to buffer 10 secs at all times ?
[13:59] <tlg> yes
[13:59] <tlg> like the queue plugin does
[14:00] <tlg> only when I have an eos, the next x secs are mixed with the last x secs
[14:00] <tlg> I just ported the plugin from 0.6 to 0.8
[14:07] <thomasvs> tlg: so you can only statically define the overlap then ?
[14:08] <tlg> you can set a property for it
[14:08] <tlg> but yeah it is static but I don't think it is a problem
[14:09] <Makki_FT> you can't increase the buffer at playtime ?
[14:10] <tlg> I could
[14:10] <tlg> only if you set it x secs before eos happens
[14:11] <Makki_FT> of course
[14:12] <tlg> would it be an intersting plugin to put int the gst-plugin's ?
[14:18] <apoc> tlg: yes :) maybe in sandbox first ? 
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[14:33] <jdahlin> thomasvs: buildbot looks green and nice now
[14:37] <tlg> may be it could be a feature of the queue plugin
[14:38] <tlg> is there other plugins that do queue's for the buffers ?
[14:41] <apoc> tlg: in sandbox, people can have a look
[14:42] <apoc> tlg : then you would decide where to put it 
[14:43] <tlg> ok so what are the streps for sandbox ?
[14:44] <apoc> streps ?
[14:45] <tlg> *steps
[14:45] <tlg> I don't know what to do actually
[14:45] <apoc> do you have cvs access ?
[14:45] <apoc> write access ?
[14:45] <tlg> no I don't
[14:46] <tlg> first plugin ever
[14:46] <apoc> ok so you should fill a bug
[14:46] <tlg> thought so
[14:46] <tlg> ok I'll do it fater some more testings 
[14:46] <tlg> *after
[14:47] <apoc> ok ... I'll will add it to the gst-sandbox module
[14:47] <tlg> I still have some isues with seeking
[14:47] <apoc> tlg: how do you test it ? rhythmbox ?
[14:47] <tlg> and it seems like I have a samll glitch when unlinking/relinking a spider
[14:48] <tlg> no self program
[14:48] <tlg> with a timer, then seek
[14:48] <apoc> ok
[14:48] <tlg> anyway, have to go
[14:48] <tlg> talk to you later
[14:49] <apoc> tlg: ok bye
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[15:07] <Company> good morning angels
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[18:16] <Company> gst-autoplug is a boring name for an autoplugging framework
[18:16] <Company> someone suggest a better name please
[18:17] <walters> gst-magic
[18:18] <Company> i don't want a gst in there
[18:18] <Company> this is getting as boring as KDEs K everywhere
[18:18] <Company> but magic sounds good
[18:23] <Tack> PixieDust :)
[18:23] <walters> or maybe automagic
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[18:24] <Tack> Hey, just like EFnet.
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[18:26] <tlg> superglue
[18:26] <tlg> for the plugging
[18:26] <tlg> autoplugging
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[18:27] <Company> glue is interesting, too
[18:27] <Tack> If it were a KDE project, you could call it KrazyGlue :)
[18:28] <Tack> And then get sued for trademark infringement.
[18:28] <Company> glue = gstreamer l... u... environment
[18:29] <Tack> LUser.
[18:29] <tlg> (;
[18:29] <thomasvs> link us
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[18:30] <tlg> Gstreamer Linking Unknown E....
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[18:30] <Company> unconnected elements
[18:30] <tlg> ;)
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[18:31] <Company> libglue
[18:31] <Company> library using gstreamer to link unlinked elements
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[18:31] <djtansey> my gst-launch (0.8) and gst-launch-ext work with osssink but not with alsasink. i use alsa primarily with oss emultion. i'd rather be using alsa directly (doesn't skip when CPU usage goes up), but when i try to use alsasink i get this:
[18:31] <djtansey> RUNNING pipeline ...
[18:31] <djtansey>  
[18:31] <djtansey> ** ERROR **: file gstoptimalscheduler.c: line 752 (destroy_group): assertion failed: (group->group_links == NULL)
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[18:31] <djtansey> any ideas?
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[18:53] <thomasvs> evening boss
[18:54] <dolphy> yop
[18:54] <dolphy> wassup ? :)
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[18:54] <iain> Is this on....I AM SO TOO!
[18:55] <thomasvs> iain: playing pokey ?
[18:55] <thomasvs> dolphy: not much, finishing up some loose ends :)
[18:55] <iain> thomasvs: snowpatrol song
[18:56] <iain> (although it could be a song they made up from reading Pokey)
[18:56] <iain> ERROR: Caught a segmentation fault while loading plugin file:
[18:56] <iain> /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstfaad.so
[18:56] <iain> hmm, bugger
[18:57] <thomasvs> iain: you have to admit that that's nicer than just a segfault leaving you clueless, no ?
[18:57] <iain> yes
[18:57] <thomasvs> right, anyone want to test an autotools template for docbook building ?
[18:58] <iain> but I can't debug it with gdb because it doesn't seem to crash in a nice way
[18:59] <thomasvs> iain: you can specify an option
[18:59] <thomasvs> --gst-disable-segtrap
[19:01] <iain> I did
[19:01] <iain> it eventually brings up the gnome crash dialog
[19:01] <iain> and clicking close gives me
[19:01] <iain> Program exited with code 01.
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[19:02] <dolphy> grmbl my gnome panel disappeared..
[19:02] <dolphy> wtf
[19:02] <iain> (lt-marlin:1374): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: file gstcaps.c: line 1128 (gst_caps_from_string_inplace): assertion `string' failed
[19:02] <iain>  
[19:02] <iain> thats what I get before the crash
[19:02] <iain> (lt-marlin:1374): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Could not convert static caps "(null)"
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[19:08] <iain> http://discomachinegun.prettypeople.org/~iain/xfade.png
[19:08] <iain> what else would a crossfader dialog need?
[19:08] <iain> so far all I can think of it indication of which is the src line and which is dest
[19:09] <iain> oh, and an indication of how long it is to each point
[19:11] <thomasvs> a display of the waveforms
[19:11] <thomasvs> why is there only one file ?
[19:12] <iain> cos it cross fades with the clipboard
[19:12] <iain> its "Paste Crossfade"
[19:12] <iain> display of waveforms is a bit much for the moment :)
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[20:21] <Uraeus> ello
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[20:24] <thomasvs> Uraeus: you don't happen to know about an image library for remote control buttons ?
[20:24] <thomasvs> preferably in svg ?
[20:25] <Uraeus> thomasvs: remote control buttons?
[20:26] <BBB> thomasvs: can I apply the FAQ patch?
[20:26] <BBB> #139045
[20:27] <thomasvs> Uraeus: yeah, the icons on the buttons of a remote control
[20:27] <thomasvs> teletext, play, ...
[20:28] <Uraeus> thomasvs: ah, think I understand you know, you want images of media player buttons; there are some in Nuvola
[20:29] <thomasvs> Uraeus: well, the problem is I want the others :)
[20:29] <thomasvs> Uraeus: not just play/pause and so on
[20:29] <thomasvs> I want the ones that are on a lot of remotes
[20:29] <thomasvs> but I guess I don't know how to google for it properly, because I'm only hitting a whole bunch of other sites
[20:29] <thomasvs> BBB: sure, don't see why you need a patch for that :)
[20:30] <BBB> so you can say 'sure' or 'no, you idiot, don't do that'
[20:30] <Uraeus> thomasvs: well send me a list and I try to ask David to make you the ones you want
[20:32] <thomasvs> BBB: sure, idiot, do that :)
[20:32] <thomasvs> Uraeus: hm, ok, will check my remotes :)
[20:33] Action: Uraeus is from today officially living at his mom's place again ;)
[20:33] <BBB> poor you :p
[20:35] <Uraeus> yeah, life is hard sometimes :)
[20:37] <BBB> you have a cool world trip in front of you
[20:39] <Uraeus> yeah, and my mother moved out of her house so I just have to share it with my sister so I guess I survive :)
[20:41] Nick change: markey|run -> markey
[20:41] <BBB> heh :)
[20:41] <BBB> thomasvs: will you do gnome-media-2.6.1 tomorrow?
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[20:45] <thomasvs> BBB: what happened ?
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[20:45] <BBB> ?
[20:47] <thomasvs> BBB: that needs a release ?
[20:47] <ds> Uraeus's mom's house is nice
[20:47] <thomasvs> Uraeus's sister is nice
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[20:49] <Uraeus> heh, I forgot most of you had been there :)
[20:50] <ds> except the house is in an above/below ground street maze
[20:51] <BBB> thomasvs: call for tarballs?
[20:51] <BBB> thomasvs: deadline is monday
[21:00] <thomasvs> BBB: yeah, but has anything changed ?
[21:00] <BBB> translations
[21:01] <BBB> apart from that: no
[21:01] <BBB> though I might want to fix up gst-mixer somewhat to work better with alsa
[21:01] <BBB> (images, you know?)
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[21:13] <Uraeus> hi dolphy
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[21:18] <dmouritsendk> I can't seem to get alsa working with gstreamer, it tells me that my alsa device is busy. Though, it doesn't seem to be busy (jackd , for example, can access it. So can all other alsa apps on my box)
[21:18] <BBB> did you try different devices?
[21:19] <BBB> thomasvs: I've updated the alsa icons for gst-mixer... will you take care of the make dist part?
[21:19] <BBB> 'updated' = 'fix up name->icon conversion'
[21:19] <dolphy> Uraeus: hi
[21:20] <BBB> heyd ude
[21:20] <dmouritsendk> I only tried my default device, i only have one :) (ive also tried making gst output to oss instead, this works fine (alsa-oss emulation))
[21:21] <BBB> weird... can you track it down to a specific call where it's failing using --gst-debug-level=5?
[21:21] <BBB> (that'll give lots of output, limit it to alsa
[21:21] <dmouritsendk> one sec
[21:21] <BBB> --gst-debug-level:*alsa*=5
[21:21] <BBB> or so
[21:27] <dmouritsendk> I cant seem to make it give me only alsa, tried with --gst-debug=alsa --gst-debug-level=5 (and a bunch of differnt variations of what you wrote :) , no success)
[21:28] <BBB> --gst-debug=alsa*:5
[21:28] <BBB> ?
[21:28] <BBB> or ALSA*:5
[21:28] Action: BBB doesn't know
[21:28] <Company> alsa
[21:29] <Company> see docs
[21:29] <Company> elements are supposed to use the name of the element
[21:29] <BBB> k
[21:29] <Company> with optional subcategories with underscores like alsa_mixer
[21:30] <Company> so alsa*:5 should give you anything you need
[21:30] <dmouritsendk> it doesn't give me anything :(
[21:31] <ploum> nor osssink, nor alsasink are working for me on gstreamer 0.8.1 :(
[21:31] <ploum> I must use esdsink :(
[21:31] <BBB> eh?
[21:31] <BBB> that's pretty bad
[21:31] <BBB> they all work for me... :/
[21:31] <ploum> yes, indeed ... I don't understand.  
[21:31] <Company> ploum: 0.8.0 worked?
[21:31] <dmouritsendk> oh well. this isn't so important. It works with alsa-oss emulation, I dont really care if it uses the one or the other. Spend to much time with this already(almost 10 min :D) =) 
[21:31] <ploum> alsasink has never working
[21:32] <ploum> but ossink was working for ogg vorbis files in 0.8.0
[21:32] <ploum> (worked sorry)
[21:32] <Company> ploum: you should get in touch with ds
[21:32] <ploum> now, both mp3 and ogg file take 100% of my cpu
[21:32] <dmouritsendk> but thanx for the assistance anyways people =)
[21:32] <Company> ploum: there might be some issues in the new probing code
[21:32] <ploum> Company, who is ds ?
[21:32] <BBB> probing code...?
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[21:32] <BBB> ds-work
[21:32] <BBB> dave
[21:33] <Company> ploum: ds is the guy who wrote the probing code :)
[21:33] <ploum> Ok, I will contact him :)
[21:33] <ploum> ds or ds-work?
[21:33] <Company> just wait until he shows up
[21:33] <Company> depends on if he's at work :)
[21:33] <ploum> Thx..  i will wait for him
[21:34] <BBB> the problem with probing code is that it only checks certain rates, it seems
[21:35] <Company> BBB: nope
[21:35] <Company> BBB: try --gst-debug=oss*:5 to see what it tries
[21:35] <BBB> 84531
[21:35] <BBB> 86078
[21:35] <BBB> 87625
[21:35] <ploum> BBB, I really think that my sound card sux !
[21:35] <BBB> so what if my soundcard only supports 44103Hz?
[21:35] <BBB> 43538
[21:35] <BBB> 44312
[21:35] <BBB> not checked
[21:36] <Company> ploum: could you open a bug about it and attach the output of gst-launch sinesrc ! osssink --gst-debug=oss*:5 to it?
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[21:38] <ploum> Company, zsh doesn't accept the star
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[21:38] <ploum> Without the start,it makes a awful noise !!
[21:39] <Company> ploum: just run bash or try \*
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[21:40] <ploum> Company, ok, I do it
[21:41] <ploum> Company, is the 0.8.2 out ??
[21:42] <thomasvs> dmouritsendk: what version of gst are you using ?
[21:45] <dmouritsendk> sorry for the long reply time, was afk, im using 0.8.0
[21:48] <ds> ploum: run ossprobe in the gst-plugins/sys/oss directory and attach that output to the bug
[21:49] <Company> moo
[21:49] <Company> ds: know a nice name instead of gst-autoplug
[21:49] <Company> ?
[21:49] <ds> what's wrong with gst-autoplug?
[21:49] <Company> it's boring
[21:50] <Company> and we're starting to end like KDE by naming everything gst-*
[21:50] <ds> so?
[21:50] <dmouritsendk> Company gst-pnp?
[21:50] <ds> we're a small project
[21:50] <Company> i just want something more interesting, nothing more
[21:51] <ds> it's good to have things start with gst
[21:51] <ds> it identifies that they're part of the gstreamer system
[21:51] <ds> and none of the parts are independent
[21:51] <ds> swfdec is independent, that's why it's not named gst-*
[21:53] <Company> dunno
[21:53] <Company> i think it's boring
[21:53] <lilo_booter> you sure that helps ds? surely, projects which are written on top of gst are done so for expediency... they're not done that way to promote gst
[21:54] <lilo_booter> i've always found the k and g prefix a silly one (i'm glad i work on a gtk based app called kino ;-))
[21:54] <Company> well, the autoplugging stuff will probably end up an important part for GStreamer as a project
[21:55] <Company> it's boring nonetheless to name it gst-autoplug
[21:55] <Company> i liked glue :)
[21:56] <lilo_booter> i say names don't matter :-) - as long as they're unique, noone's gonna get confused - if they're similar, people do...
[21:57] <ds> lilo_booter: what projects outside the gstreamer project are named gst-*?
[21:57] <lilo_booter> heh
[21:57] <Company> gnu smalltalk
[21:57] <lilo_booter> :-)
[21:58] <lilo_booter> a tla (or similar) is important to define a namespace for an api...
[21:58] <Company> (fwiw that's why our libs are called libgstreamer-*)
[21:58] <lilo_booter> after that, nah - i don't see the advantage
[21:59] <ploum> ds, Company : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140432
[21:59] <ploum> But I can't attach a file, I don't know why !
[21:59] <ploum> "You did not specify a file to attach."  but I did !
[21:59] <Company> try again
[22:00] Action: Company has done it so it should work
[22:00] <Company> you only need to make sure to not confuse the "comment" and the "filename" entry :)
[22:01] <_246tNt_pc_> Where did you hide the source of GstPlay ... I only found empty dirs ...
[22:01] <Company> gst-plugins/gst-libs/gst/play
[22:02] <_246tNt_pc_> Thanks ;)
[22:04] <ploum> ds, I'm sorry, but I don't find ossprobe or anything else like that
[22:05] <ds> it's in the source tree
[22:06] <ploum> Oh, I don't have the source here..  
[22:07] <ploum> sorry
[22:07] <ploum> I will download it
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[22:07] <ds> doesn't matter
[22:10] <Company> heh, that card supports any rate :)
[22:11] <ds> is that alsa emulation?
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[22:13] <Company> ploum: are you on Linux?
[22:13] <Company> ds: i'm using alsa emulation and don't have that problem
[22:15] <ploum> Company, yes under Debian
[22:16] <ploum> Company, is there others OS that use alsa or oss ?
[22:16] <ploum> ds : yes it's alsa emulation
[22:16] <ploum> oss is not in my kernel ! so it's only alsa emulation
[22:17] <ploum> well, I can compile ossprobe alone if it's possible
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[22:19] <Company> shouldn't be needed, that debug oputput should be enough (i think)
[22:19] <ploum> ok..
[22:20] <Company> what OS are you using? something selfcompiled?
[22:20] <Zeenix> hello
[22:20] <ploum> No : simple Debian unstable/experimental with a self-compiled 2.6.5 kernel
[22:21] <ploum> I will eat but I'm hanging around if you need me.
[22:22] Action: ploum hopes that, in a few months, he will be able to send patches with bug reports
[22:23] <Company> go ploum! :)
[22:23] Action: ds notices a small, but probably irrelevant, bug
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[22:24] <dmouritsendk> ds: what, no alsa support? :p
[22:25] <ds> er, sort of... we don't support alsa's bugs :)
[22:25] <Company> we do support the bugs
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[22:25] <dmouritsendk> hehe :D
[22:26] <Company> we don't support workarounds
[22:27] <Company> that's why gst is very sensitive to the installed kernel, too
[22:32] <ds> sinesrc ! audioconvert ! audio/x-raw-int, channels=2 ! osssink
[22:32] <ds> ploum: could you try that line?
[22:33] <ds> sinesrc ! audioconvert ! audio/x-raw-int,width=8,depth=8,signed=false ! osssink
[22:33] <ds> and that one
[22:33] <ploum> ds, with gst-launch I presume ?
[22:33] <ds> yes
[22:33] <ploum> first line : just a crackling noise without error message
[22:34] <ploum> second line :
[22:34] <ploum> AVERTISSEMENT: tube erroné: impossible de connecter audioconvert0 a osssink0
[22:34] <ploum>          Tentative d'execution malgrè tout.
[22:34] <ploum> EXECUTION du tube en cours ...
[22:34] <ploum> ERREUR: le tube refuse de s'executer.
[22:35] <ploum> (it's in french sorry, but it  says that it can't connect to audioconvert0 a osssink0 and fail
[22:35] <Company> people should just all speak the same language ;)
[22:35] <ds> people should just be able to read all languages
[22:36] <_246tNt_pc_> Yeah, ploum I can't possibly understand why u use french ...
[22:36] <Company> ds once used German ;)
[22:36] <ploum> _246tNt_pc_, simply because I prefer french kiss thant english food ;)
[22:36] Action: ds still uses German
[22:36] <ds> or spanish
[22:37] <Company> i hate german computer language
[22:37] <Company> i don't understand any other language
[22:37] <ds> I have trouble with the longer debconf config options in spanish, though
[22:38] <Company> so when i need to get something done i use english and when i want my fun i use arabic
[22:38] <_246tNt_pc_> ploum, can't argue with that ;)
[22:38] <Company> or japanese
[22:38] <ploum> Company, finnish is even more fun !
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[22:42] <Portable> Hello, I have a question about a problem I'm having using gstreamer in my program, if anyone could help me.  It's an audio player, anyway, I am able to play a track successfully, but when it hits the eos on the file source and tries to switch to the next track in my playlist, it is unable to set the state of the thread to PLAYING again.  It returns a GST_STATE_FAILURE.
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[22:43] <Company> Portable: are you using spider in your pipeline?
[22:43] <Portable> Yes
[22:43] <Company> spider doesn't support playing another file
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[22:44] <Company> you need to remove the spider object, create a new one and use that for now
[22:44] <Portable> Ok, I am doing that with the filesrc element already, but I have to do the spider too?
[22:44] <Company> yeah
[22:44] <Portable> Thanks
[22:44] <Company> filesrc should work without replacing, spider definitely doesn't
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[22:45] <Portable> ok
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[22:46] Action: ploum is eating in front of his computer.  ..  shame shame.. he becomes a true geek
[22:46] Action: ds wonders why that gave a negotiation error
[22:47] <Company> no clue, but it would be obvious if you knew what he did exactly
[22:48] <ds> sinesrc ! audioconvert ! audio/x-raw-int,width=8,depth=8,signed=false ! osssink
[22:50] <ds> er,
[22:51] <ds> ploum: how about sinesrc ! audioconvert ! audio/x-raw-int,width=8,depth=8,signed=\(boolean\)false ! osssink
[22:52] <Portable> Are there any common mistakes that cause gstreamer to give this error?  GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 160 (): error 'Device or resource busy' during 'pthread_mutex_destroy ((pthread_mutex_t *) mutex)'
[22:54] <ploum> ds ** (process:2657): WARNING **: Unrecoverable syntax error while parsing pipeline
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[22:59] <ploum> ds, with bash, it's the same
[23:00] <ds> ploum: run it like gst-launch 'sinesrc ...', and without the \ instead
[23:00] Action: ds renews his hatred of Solaris
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[23:02] <Portable> Hmm, my program now has no problem playing consecutive tracks after I switched to iterating a pipeline.  When I use a thread, it chokes when trying to play the next one and spits out the thread error from several lines up in the chat.
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[23:05] <Company> gstreamer has issues with threads
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[23:05] <Portable> This news saddens me.  Do you think I should just use the normal pipeline and try to iterate it manually?
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[23:08] <Company> either that or try to work around the issues
[23:09] <Company> rhythmbox and totem use threads, so it works
[23:09] <Portable> Maybe I'll check out the source for them.
[23:10] <Company> there are some things that cause errors, other things work
[23:10] <Company> it's not that it doesn't work, but it has issues
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[23:13] <ds> ploum: I'm becoming more worried that your alsa driver is buggy
[23:15] <ds> ploum: and the 'device does not exist' error is definitely not a gstreamer problem
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[23:38] <Zeenix> hi thomasvs
[23:55] <ploum> ds thx
[23:55] <ploum> I'm sorry, my girlfriend is here (surprise :) )
[23:55] <ploum> CU
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[23:56] <ploum> ds, do you think that hte OSS problem is related with alsa ?
[23:56] Action: ploum must go...  
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[00:55] <Company> taaz: ping?
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[00:59] <MuMart> Hi, can gstreamer use LADSPA plugins?
[01:00] <Company> yes
[01:00] <Company> there's a gstreamer ladspa plugin
[01:00] <MuMart> Cool.
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[01:03] <Company> i'm not sure how stable they are, because most developers are interested in A/V decoding which works pretty well without ladspa, but in general they should work
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[01:04] <MuMart> I'm looking into writing an audio player in python using gstreamer. I want to give it some pro-audio dsps like foobar2000. Looks like it's going to be pretty easy!
[01:05] <Company> it always looks pretty easy at first ;)
[01:06] <Company> #/me should stop being so negative, we're encouraging people to use gstreamer in here :)
[01:06] Action: Company should stop being so negative, we're encouraging people to use gstreamer in here :)
[01:06] <Company> that way
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[01:07] <MuMart> Heh. Well, it's looking a bit more feasable now. These frameworks rock!
[01:10] Action: BBB pokes ds-wrok
[01:10] Action: BBB pokes ds-work
[01:12] <ds> THE STREET IS COVERED WITH AUTOMBILES
[01:12] <BBB> it usually is
[01:12] Action: BBB pokes ds
[01:12] <BBB> esds data patches? :p
[01:12] <ds> how about solaris build fixes instead?
[01:13] <BBB> hm... maybe
[01:13] <Company> how about completing the autoplugger for me?
[01:14] <ds> later
[01:14] <BBB> anyone wanna add request pads to wavparse?
[01:14] <BBB> or should I do that?
[01:14] <Company> :/
[01:14] <Company> please do it in a way that makes it easy to revert
[01:14] <ds> gst-plugins just finished building on Solaris, so that's effectively done
[01:14] <BBB> Company: why?
[01:14] <Company> because wavparse should use ALWAYS pads
[01:14] <BBB> Company: wav files can contain multiple audio streams
[01:14] <BBB> that's lega
[01:14] <Company> huh?
[01:14] <BBB> that's nonsense
[01:15] <BBB> why *should* wavparse use always pads?
[01:15] <BBB> that makes little sense
[01:15] <BBB> and either way, it breaks spider heavily right now
[01:15] <Company> it's a lot of overhead and not as easy
[01:15] <Company> i'm gonna revert id3demux to use ALWAYS pads once gst-autoplug works
[01:16] <Company> which will break spider the moment i do that
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[01:16] <BBB> id3 always contains one stream
[01:16] <BBB> that's different
[01:16] <Company> yeah
[01:16] <BBB> for wav, it's legal to contain 1-n streams
[01:16] <BBB> (afaik)
[01:16] <Company> wav contains at least one stream ;)
[01:17] <Company> so it should at least have 1 always pad
[01:17] Action: BBB disagrees
[01:17] <BBB> ohwell
[01:17] Action: BBB thinks always pads are for static amounts of pads only
[01:17] <Company> always pads are pads that are always available
[01:17] <Company> simple as that
[01:18] <Company> there's this perversion that people only use sometimes pads because they work for what they want in the spider case
[01:19] <Company> unfortunately it doesn't work in other cases
[01:19] <Company> like gst-launch
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[01:19] <BBB> then *FIX* spider
[01:20] <Company> i'm not gonna touch spider
[01:20] <BBB> I really don't care how it works, but the current thing doesn't so it needs fixage
[01:20] <Company> yes
[01:20] <Company> i just said that if you use a workaround make it easy to revert
[01:21] <BBB> find the patch in CVS, patch -R it
[01:21] <BBB> enjoy ;)
[01:21] <Company> and if i get "3 outr of 5 hunks rejected" i'll just commit it? ;)
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[01:22] <Company> i'm using /* FIXME: spider... */ or sth like that everywhere
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[01:23] <BBB> how did this work in 0.6.x?
[01:23] <Company> it didn't
[01:24] <BBB> but?
[01:24] <Company> wavs that couldn't connect to the sink directly never worked
[01:24] <Company> that's why mp3-in-wav wasn't played by rb
[01:24] <Company> and we had no id3 elements in 0.6
[01:25] <BBB> I know
[01:25] <BBB> triplication of code in flac and so on
[01:25] <BBB> :)
[01:25] <BBB> and vorbisfile
[01:25] <Company> vorbisfile had no id3 code
[01:25] <BBB> something in there did
[01:26] <Company> mad did and still does
[01:29] <Company> hum
[01:30] <Company> there's no way to find out which pads got linked if you run gst_element_link (el1, el2);
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[01:36] <BBB> sweet, sweet
[01:37] Action: BBB commits his bunch of hacks in wavparse
[01:37] <iain> ohhh
[01:37] <iain> does it make wavparse run in entry and does it get the metadata like it used to?
[01:38] <Company> wavparse doesn't run in entry?
[01:39] <iain> not with marlin it dont
[01:40] <BBB> metadata: no
[01:40] <iain> it sits and does nothing
[01:40] <BBB> it needs to use rifflib for that
[01:40] <iain> and then when I stop it I get
[01:40] <iain>  
[01:40] <iain> ** ERROR **: file entryscheduler.c: line 890 (gst_entry_scheduler_yield): assertion failed: (ELEMENT_PRIVATE (element))
[01:40] <iain> aborting...
[01:40] <iain> BBB: I made it do metadata without using rifflib
[01:40] <BBB> ehw, it yields?
[01:40] <BBB> iain: yes, but that's duplication of code
[01:40] <BBB> that's evil and ugly and ... and ...
[01:40] Action: BBB kicks iain for doing that
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[01:41] <iain> rifflib blew when I did it
[01:41] <BBB> when you did what?
[01:41] <iain> when I did the metadata support
[01:41] <BBB> how so?
[01:41] <BBB> do it the same as avidemux
[01:41] <BBB> works there
[01:42] <iain> it was months ago before you rewrite rifflib
[01:42] <iain> rewrote
[01:42] <BBB> oh, d'oh
[01:42] <BBB> I rewrote it because it sucked :p
[01:43] <iain> yeah
[01:44] <iain> sigh, once it starts to work with entry I'll make it use rifflib
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[01:53] <iain> <jdub> Gman: talk to the xine dudes about doing a split
[01:53] <iain> <jdub> Gman: i hear they just need encouragement to do it
[01:53] <iain> they're bitching about gstreamer again on #gnome-hackers
[01:55] <Misirlou> ugh
[01:55] <BBB> hm...
[01:56] <MuMart> What about?
[01:56] <BBB> jdub
[01:56] <Misirlou> <jdub> Gman: xine tends to solve the "works" user requirement btter
[01:57] <MuMart> Crap.
[01:58] <BBB> as long as gnome keeps having issues with this legal stuff, yes, totem-gst provided in gnome will playback nothing
[01:58] <BBB> *all* decoders have patent issues
[01:58] <BBB> except the ogg cruft
[01:58] <BBB> face it: that's the way it ios
[01:59] <MuMart> There's a saying that if you write 1000 lines of code you step on a patent.
[02:00] <iain> we need to make sure that we can get RB working perfectly
[02:00] <iain> (which it does for me at the moment might I add)
[02:00] <iain> and we need to concentrate on getting Totem to work very well as well
[02:00] <BBB> I'v been doing that
[02:01] <BBB> but I need you guys to make bugs for each non-working movie
[02:01] <iain> Will do
[02:01] <iain> but most of my movies are 700meg movies :/
[02:01] <iain> and we really need to encourage people to test GStreamer somehow
[02:02] <Misirlou> And illegal to boot? :\
[02:02] <BBB> so what, cut off a short bit so I can reproduce
[02:02] <iain> hmm ok
[02:03] <BBB> at least avidemux is capable of doing that
[02:03] <BBB> I just need like 5 MB or so
[02:03] <BBB> mpegdemux definately can do that too
[02:03] <iain> ** ERROR **: file entryscheduler.c: line 890 (gst_entry_scheduler_yield): assertion failed: (ELEMENT_PRIVATE (element))
[02:03] <iain> aborting...
[02:03] <iain> totem gave me that with entry trying to play an asf
[02:04] <iain> theres def something wrong with entry and yielding
[02:04] <iain> we also need to decide what to do with schedulers
[02:05] <iain> are we going to work on "this works for most things" and make something like entrygthreads the default
[02:05] <iain> and have something like a fixed version of opt for "pro-audio" apps like wingo says he needs?
[02:06] <BBB> basicgthread works better, I'm affraid
[02:06] <BBB> entry is still under development
[02:06] <BBB> I don't wanna kill dev. on entry for that
[02:07] <iain> entry is working fairly solidly for me
[02:07] <iain> with these few slips
[02:07] <BBB> for me too, but basic is *more* solid
[02:07] <BBB> basic doesn't have those slips right now
[02:08] <iain> marlin doesn't work with basic
[02:08] <iain> works perfectly with entry
[02:08] <iain> and no-one is working on basic to my knowledge
[02:09] <iain> which makes me worried about using it...at least with entry I know I can say to Company and he'll fix it in a few hours or so
[02:09] <iain> but we really do need to get one scheduler working perfectly, and make it the default
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[02:33] <Company> iain: we will completely overhaul the way schjedulers work in 0.9
[02:34] <Company> iain: at least that's the plan
[02:34] <BBB> do whatever you wish, and don't cause any bugs
[02:34] <BBB> :p
[02:35] <Company> haha :p
[02:35] <Company> it's just the reason why noone is interested in working on schedulers
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[02:40] <BBB> nobody is interested in what I'm doing either
[02:40] <BBB> and that goes for so many things
[02:40] <BBB> get over the whining
[02:40] <BBB> *fix it*
[02:40] <taaz> do you really need to "overhaul" schedulers?  why not just refactor incrementally
[02:40] <Company> because overhauling is a lot easier
[02:41] <BBB> taaz: don't try, I've tried convincing him some time ago and failed... 
[02:41] <Company> convince me about what?
[02:41] <Company> taaz: btw, does gstreamer's gconf stuff install correctly?
[02:42] <Company> taaz: i had a report from someone using the experimental stuff that the 0.8 entries only showed up after restarting gconfd
[02:43] <taaz> people on #gnome-debian were saying that is a problem with other packages as well
[02:44] <taaz> if i understand what they were saying correctly
[02:44] <Company> good
[02:44] <Company> so you're aware of it
[02:44] <taaz> good? it's bad
[02:44] <Company> good that you're aware of it :p
[02:45] <taaz> i have no clue what to do about that
[02:45] <taaz> i really don't know anything about gconf other than it seems really complicated
[02:46] <Company> heh
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[02:46] <taaz> walters: ping?
[02:46] <walters> pong
[02:46] <taaz> cdbs question: is it possible to have different configure flags for arch vs indep?
[02:47] <walters> not with the default autotools.mk
[02:47] <walters> but you could probably do it if you used autotools-vars.mk and implemented the configure-arch and configure-indep steps yourself (i think that's hwat they're called)
[02:48] <walters> although, it might turn out to be the same issue as multipass build
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[02:54] <taaz> blah
[02:55] <taaz> my old rules for gst core suck and are causing real problems now.  so i wanted to upgrade.  i had a real tricky setup to handle everything properly but it's too hard to squeeze that into cdbs directly
[02:55] Nick change: harshyPenguincon -> harshy
[02:55] <taaz> i guess i can just punt and force all archs to build docs.  iirc that caused problems in the past on some arch where the tools were just broken
[02:55] <BBB> is gsmdec broken?
[02:56] <BBB> gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=/media/music/sample-gsm-8000.mov ! qtdemux .audio_00 ! gsmdec ! osssink --gst-scheduler=basicgthread
[02:56] <BBB> RUNNING pipeline ...
[02:56] <BBB> ERROR         default( 5579) ./grammar.y(383):gst_parse_element_lock:<gsmdec0> (null)
[02:56] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[02:56] <BBB> ERROR: from element /pipeline0/gsmdec0: Internal GStreamer error: state change failed.  File a bug.
[02:56] <BBB> ERROR        GST_PADS( 5580) gstpad.c(3187):gst_pad_pull:<osssink0> (null)
[02:56] <BBB> ERROR        GST_PADS( 5580) gstpad.c(3187):gst_pad_pull:<osssink0> pull on pad osssink0:sink but the peer pad gsmdec0:src has no gethandler
[02:56] <BBB> ERROR: from element /pipeline0/osssink0: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.
[02:56] <BBB> Additional debug info:
[02:56] <BBB> gstpad.c(3187): gst_pad_pull: /pipeline0/osssink0:
[02:56] <BBB> pull on pad osssink0:sink but the peer pad gsmdec0:src has no gethandler
[02:56] <taaz> btw, what's the deal with shout vs shout2 vs debian?  is there a lib available to build the icecast stuff?
[02:56] Action: BBB notes how capsnego is completely broken in the gsm plugins
[02:57] benow ([email protected]) left irc: "Guiding the meefalo to glorious meef free living"
[02:57] Action: BBB copies some random code from alawdec into gsmdec
[02:59] iain ([email protected]) left irc: "You're not the only one"


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