Re: HD capture question

This is clearly the wrong place, but I'm not sure where is the right place!

I have a Canon XHA1s hdv camera, and I'm trying to use kdenlive since 
kino seems to have no future. I'm pretty ignorant about the complexity 
of possible settings and can't find a place to look it up. For example 
settings on the camera's spec sheet don't seem to match kdenlive settings.

For instance, the handbook http://kdenlive.org/node/1478 shows a "Vido 
Standard" screenshot including HDV 1440x1080 50i, which is the correct 
resolution for my camera - but my installation (Ubuntu 9.10, kdenlive 
0.7.7.1, KDE 4.3.2) doesn't have it. I have no idea how to fix this.

I've  quite a few other questions, the answers to which may be helpful 
to others too, but not sure where to ask.

I've managed to capture using dvgrab <$ dvgrab -t hdv capturefile> 
although it needed a fair it of tweaking modules, permissions and 
libraries, but I still can't capture using kdenlive. dvgrab on it's own 
seems to be a bit of a blunt instrument.

Is there a central repository of hdv and other video wisdom that I 
should be consulting? Is there a mailing list where people like me can 
ask dumb questions? Are people getting good results with HDV editing on 
FOSS? I'm quite happy to write up a case history if I can get it all to 
work.

I really don't want to have to fire up my Macintosh if I can avoid it.

Thanks for any help

David.

Dan Dennedy wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Richard Rasker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Op dinsdag 23-03-2010 om 18:00 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Daniel
>> Jircik:
>>> Kino does not support hdv. Try kdenlive which is based on the melt
>>> library which plays just about anything. Kino is no longer developed.
>>> Ciao
>>> Daniel
>> Hm, I tried rendering the .mov file to raw DV using Kdenlive, but I
>> still get a rather choppy result -- even though Kdenlive didn't come up
>> with any warnings or error messages. It isn't quite as bad a Kino's
>> rendering, but it's unusable all the same.
> 
> Maybe you chose the wrong project setting.
> 
>> Is there perhaps a recent CLI tool for properly transcoding this H.264
>> beastie to a more open format, so that I get to see exactly what's going
>> on? Sorry if I sound terribly uninformed, but I have no experience with
>> HD content whatsoever.
> 
> The following works beautifully with the sample you provided:
> 
> $ melt -profile dv_ntsc_wide file0034.mov -consumer
> avformat:file0034.dv pix_fmt=yuv411p
> 
> Note the default profile is PAL DV, which does not match your input's
> aspect ratio and frame rate, hence the dv_ntsc_wide. Then, ffmpeg
> requires the pix_fmt hint to tell it which DV variant to use (dv25).
> 

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